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parkland 04-05-2012 05:12 PM

Can we just delete this 4.4 section?
 
It seems like this was intended for a 4.4 l diesel for the f150 or SUV's but it just never happened.

Tom 04-05-2012 09:17 PM

I tried a couple weeks ago, and the decision was made to keep it around for a future small diesel. :confused:

03 SVT VERT 04-09-2012 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by parkland (Post 11671613)
It seems like this was intended for a 4.4 l diesel for the f150 or SUV's but it just never happened.

Technically, it did happen. Land Rover is using Ford's 4.4L diesel in the Range Rover in Europe. Unfortunately, we don't get it stateside. Kind of a shame since it's supposedly a very nice engine. It makes 308hp and 516ft-lbs of tq in Range Rover trim.

FORDF250HDXLT 05-02-2012 06:24 PM

holy crap.that would actually make a good optional diesel engine for the f250/350 trucks imho.
ford is payed by big oil not to offer it here in the states no doubt.

Tom 05-02-2012 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT (Post 11784495)
ford is payed by big oil not to offer it here in the states no doubt.



:-X24

I love conspiracy theories. :-wink

:-yeahrigh

MisterCMK 05-03-2012 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 11785208)
:-X24

I love conspiracy theories. :-wink

:-yeahrigh

And bad spelling. Lol

seventyseven250 05-03-2012 07:28 AM

I work for "big oil" and we're doing everything we can to encourage fleet users to switch to Natural gas. Trust me, the oil companies aren't worried about oil demand.

These days now that gasoline engines are available with turbo and direct injection, the economy gap with diesel is pretty small. Why buy a 4.4 diesel for an F150 when you can have the ecoboost?

03 SVT VERT 05-04-2012 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by seventyseven250 (Post 11786785)
Why buy a 4.4 diesel for an F150 when you can have the ecoboost?

Lots of reasons. It would be nice if we had the choice of a diesel or ecoboost, instead of the choice being made for us.

arizonasuperduty007 05-06-2012 05:35 PM

While gas is now direct injection in many vehicles, it still is young and still requires spark plugs. I really like my V10 and it would be better if it were direct injection. The fact is Diesel has more BTU's per gallon than does gasoline, that's where the economy is. I know this is rather direct from a new username, but diesel engines are getting better with time as well.

arizonasuperduty007 05-06-2012 05:37 PM

I would love for smaller trucks to have a diesel in them. I was hoping for it a few years back. I would probably buy an f150 if it had a diesel.

parkland 05-06-2012 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by arizonasuperduty007 (Post 11799943)
The fact is Diesel has more BTU's per gallon than does gasoline, that's where the economy is.


Economy? What economy? Diesel has been consistently costing more than gas, and a diesel trucks costs a ton more to buy and look after ?!?
Would you buy an f150 for a family vehicle with DPF, urea, EGR, etc ? I wouldn't.

I would consider swapping a pre-emissions diesel into an f150, but this new technology is insane, and not cost effective unless you drive a ton of miles.

IMHO, for diesel trucks to become a huge asset again, they either need to get more reliable, cheaper, or the price of diesel needs to go way down. Do any of those things sound like reality? :-X04

arizonasuperduty007 05-06-2012 10:54 PM

I agree that diesel is a whole lot more and regulations are killing it. Wow, I think the only way it could seem like you hate diesel any more would be if you typed all caps.

There is a reason that diesel (when you compare the same size gas and diesel engines) get better fuel mileage, it is because of the btu's per gallon of diesel versus per gallon of gasoline. It's basically the same with gasoline and methanol (or other alcoholic fuels). You are correct in your summation that the economy of diesel has been eroded with all the new reg's and equipment combined with the higher price for diesel. That is why my dad hasn't been taking his boat out as often (he has the 6.0 powerstroke in his F250) and when he does, it's not as far.

When you look at towing, diesel engines have the advantage over gasoline engines with the amount of torque they produce (again the btu's per gallon). For most American's, diesel is of no real advantage unless you are looking at bio diesel. However, for myself a diesel would be better for me because I have been towing a lot. I wasn't towing much last year, however in the last couple of months business has picked up to where I actually use the capabilities of my truck. I currently have a V10, and a 7.3 diesel would really help getting up those hills with a full load. When I do buy my next truck, it will probably be a 2001 or older truck, mainly because the 7.3 is a more reliable engine (imo).

Sorry for the length of my post.

JIM_C 05-07-2012 09:44 AM

I see that the military is prototyping the 4.4.
FED Bravo is a hybrid vision of the next Humvee | Fox News

ruschejj 06-17-2012 08:14 AM

Give me a 4.10 rear end and an 8 speed manual in my 2013 F350SRW and I would order it Monday.

Literally, we don't NEED more power. We need economy, reliability, clean diesels. Gimme max boost in every gear at 1400 rpm and I will be just fine. Smaller engine, work it easy with gearing, makes better longevity and economy. (at least I think it would)

parkland 06-17-2012 01:23 PM

Maybe a 4.4l in an f250, not a SD, but just an f250.


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