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Fishhawk460 11-25-2011 05:17 PM

2010 5.4L Using Oil?
 
Just did my pre-winter oil change. The truck is a 2010 5.4L with 18,800 miles. My last oil change was 13,400 miles. So after 5400 miles I was only able to drain 6 qts. from the crank case. The oil pan had stopped draining so I know there was nothing left. With past cars and trucks I have owned I usually haven't seen an engine us a quart of oil until 100k miles or more. I'm a little shocked at seeing my relatively new truck using a quart after 5000+ miles.
I don't run this truck hard. It has never towed or hauled anything with any weight. Just my daily driver.
Is this typical of these engines, or is it the thin 5W-20 that is causing this?

LMS Residential 11-25-2011 05:33 PM

Comparitively, my 08 5.4 has 72k on it now representing nearly 20 oil changes and it has not used or burned any oil at all that I'm aware of. I always get at least 6 1/2 quarts into the pan with the small balance in the seemingly tiny 820 motorcraft filter.
The truck is driven fairly hard as it's my primary work vehicle but I have used Mobil 1 full synthetic 5w20 since its first oil change.

LMS Residential 11-25-2011 05:46 PM

One more thing. I believe the narrow passages and relative oiling complexity of the modular motors lend themselves to an unusually long full drain time. I always let it sit draining for at least 20-25 minutes before refilling...even the filter area seems to drip for quite a while after removal.

enriched&beyound 11-25-2011 05:56 PM

you should be still under warranty....but, with down roughly a quart after 5400 miles...don't think that is going to fire off major alarms at the dealership either. That being said, I would still mention it, so it is "on record" of your concern & a presumed noted change from what you previously experienced. It might be a 1 time deal...or...a hint of a bigger issue. In the mean time...Definitely keep a close watch on the oil level.

Fishhawk460 11-25-2011 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by LMS Residential (Post 11078827)
One more thing. I believe the narrow passages and relative oiling complexity of the modular motors lend themselves to an unusually long full drain time. I always let it sit draining for at least 20-25 minutes before refilling...even the filter area seems to drip for quite a while after removal.


My last oil change was after 4200 miles and I drained a full seven quarts. I didn't wait any longer then to dain the oil then as I did today, which makes me think I waited long enough. Going to keep an eye on it now. Probably check it in a month to see if I still have a full crank case. And then regularly after. I'm hoping this is a one time deal.

slc10844 11-26-2011 07:09 AM

Don't go by what is drained out. Check the dipstick before draining. Every Ford I have ever owned has used a quart of oil between changes. Nothing to be alarmed about.

Fishhawk460 11-26-2011 02:51 PM

I checked the dip stick this morning and I realized that this was the first time since I bought the truck that I've done this. I've always changed the oil before manufacture recommendations so with a new truck i never thought to check the oil. Just drain and fill. The oil is right up to the upper hole on the stick not in the center between the two holes like I would expect. Does this sound like the crank case is over filled? This is my first modular engine.

slc10844 11-26-2011 03:43 PM

As long as the level is between the two holes your OK.

Fishhawk460 11-26-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by slc10844 (Post 11081753)
As long as the level is between the two holes your OK.

I understand that, but what I'm say is, isn't it a little high when the oil is right up to the upper hole?

ford390gashog 11-26-2011 04:10 PM

Its okay the dipsticks are just for a rough estimate. Compare two side by side and you will see each dipstick is not the same. All ford is going to you to do is try an Italian tune up! These engines need to be driven at full throttle from time to time it brings cylinder pressure up and keeps the moly faced rings seated.

phil6608 11-26-2011 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by ford390gashog (Post 11081845)
Its okay the dipsticks are just for a rough estimate. Compare two side by side and you will see each dipstick is not the same. All ford is going to you to do is try an Italian tune up! These engines need to be driven at full throttle from time to time it brings cylinder pressure up and keeps the moly faced rings seated.

What the hell is an Italian tune up? :-huh

LMS Residential 11-26-2011 06:26 PM

An Italian tune up is a full throttle run to "clear the carbon" or, in my case, an Italian tune up was when I made the ex shave her back and sideburns.

Fishhawk460 11-27-2011 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by LMS Residential (Post 11082256)
An Italian tune up is a full throttle run to "clear the carbon" or, in my case, an Italian tune up was when I made the ex shave her back and sideburns.

LMAO .... Its nice that you allowed her to keep the mustache.
I do get the truck out on the highway a couple times a month for a 280 mile round trip down 80/94 but its rare that I open the throttle. Just to much traffic.

lbrjet 11-27-2011 12:11 PM

I now have 20K miles on my 2010 F250 and usually get about 6.5 quarts out. The very first change was 6 quarts. Towed my 8K travel trailer 4700 miles this summer and no change in oil consumption. Truck loves to run at 3.5-4.5K RPMS. If you have never got it up there you will be surprised at the power.

dkf 11-27-2011 03:30 PM

A quart in 5400 miles is not a big deal. Well within what Ford considers acceptable.


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