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cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 01:20 PM

track bar/tie rod maybe??
 
I'm not sure what is going on with my truck i thought maybe the ball joints? but ive looked & thought maybe my tie rod ends. ever sice i went mudding its been like this. driving back i got it into 4th and my front tires started bouncing but when i slowed down it went away.

here are some pictures its muddy but maybe someone could help me what it might be?

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...Picture030.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...cture028-1.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...Picture027.jpg

thanks.
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RSCHAP1 04-07-2011 01:31 PM

The way that you say it has only started doing it since muddin'...
Tires/wheels out of balance from clumps of dried mud on one side of the rim, not other.
Loose track bar will allow front end "HOP" while braking.
Try washing the mud out of the rim interior and see what happens


:)

montana_highboy 04-07-2011 01:51 PM

Hard to diagnose based on pics alone, you really need to get the front-end up on stands and check the ball joints, drag link, tie rod ends, etc. for excessive wear,
but having said that it does appear your passenger side tie rod end may have some play to it, if so this can mimic an out of balance wheel and cause some pretty serious front-end wobble over 35-40mph.

cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 01:52 PM

thanks.
:)
ill do that its really hard to even see what im looking at with all the mud. when i got the truck the guy said ill have to replace the kingpin soon? would that cause this? where is my kingpin at?

77&79F250 04-07-2011 01:53 PM

Your truck is a F250 it does not have a "track bar" that is a 1/2 ton item, and yes your passenger side tie rod end looks like it's due replacement.

With the truck setting still, running, have some one turn the steering wheel back and forth few inches rather quickly and look for some (radial and axle) play in the tie rod ends.

Easy to replace, rent a tie rod fork, pop them out, count threads/rotations and remove and replace just the ends, as long as you main cross bar is not bent.

I dig flatbeds!

77&79F250 04-07-2011 01:58 PM

Looks like a D44 front end so you do not have kingpins, you have ball joints. They are at the top and bottom of where your spindle attaches to your axle.

Take the thing to the car wash or the river and get it a little de-mudded to make it easier to see whats shot under there.

cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by montana_highboy (Post 10192890)
Hard to diagnose based on pics alone, you really need to get the front-end up on stands and check the ball joints, drag link, tie rod ends, etc. for excessive wear,
but having said that it does appear your passenger side tie rod end may have some play to it, if so this can mimic an out of balance wheel and cause some pretty serious front-end wobble over 35-40mph.


that sounds like whats happening when i get to like 40 it goes crazy. i lifted the front up up last night but it was to dark ill do it again.
:]

montana_highboy 04-07-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by cowgirlup11 (Post 10192896)
when i got the truck the guy said ill have to replace the kingpin soon?

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about, your truck has ball joints, 73-75 highboys used king pins, 76-77.5 highboys used ball joints.

cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by 77&79F250 (Post 10192900)
Your truck is a F250 it does not have a "track bar" that is a 1/2 ton item, and yes your passenger side tie rod end looks like it's due replacement.

With the truck setting still, running, have some one turn the steering wheel back and forth few inches rather quickly and look for some (radial and axle) play in the tie rod ends.

Easy to replace, rent a tie rod fork, pop them out, count threads/rotations and remove and replace just the ends, as long as you main cross bar is not bent.

I dig flatbeds!

haha thanks. my brother said it might be my track bar but he's an idiot.
i talked to some guys at checker they said its probably the tie rod..

thanks i dig them too.
:]]

cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by montana_highboy (Post 10192931)
That guy doesn't know what he's talking about, your truck has ball joints, 73-75 highboys used king pins, 76-77.5 highboys used ball joints.

thanks. i looked it up in lmc & it wasent showing kingpins just ball joints.
:]

cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 02:07 PM

also so i wont have to replace the whole bar just the tie rods ends?

77&79F250 04-07-2011 02:16 PM

As long as its not bent you should be ok, after you replace all the worn front end stuff, get a alignment.

cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by 77&79F250 (Post 10193015)
As long as its not bent you should be ok, after you replace all the worn front end stuff, get a alignment.

i will. ha
thanks.
:D
its not bent. theres just no bushings or whatever those rubber things are called aint there. or barly hanging on.
:/

montana_highboy 04-07-2011 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by cowgirlup11 (Post 10192974)
also so i wont have to replace the whole bar just the tie rods ends?

Unfortunately the whole bar, it's all one piece, if it's your passenger side tie rod that's bad (as it appears it may be) then be prepared for a little sticker shock,
$140/Moog/TRW or $170/Spicer, i just did mine last summer and opted for the Spicer part, the hardest part of the job for me was getting the damn frozen castle nut off,
the one that holds the hydraulic ram to the tie rod, set your toe-in (1/8") with a tape and you're done.

cowgirlup11 04-07-2011 02:31 PM

is it pretty hard too do??
:/


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