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Bergerson 04-03-2011 11:22 PM

DP Tuner and HID'S
 
I have had a major problem of the engine stalling or dieing every time i would turn on my HID's with the DP Tuner installed, truck would not miss a beat with the DP uninstalled.

I have 5 pairs of HID's installed, headlights (hi and low beam), 6- 6" Hid's in the bumper and now 2 6" backup lights and have tried all of the myths!! relays,grounds,passenger side battery, relocating ballasts, short heavy gauge grounds, heavy gauge power wire ect.ect... I learned to live with it and turn on my headlight before i start the truck.. (most of the time) big pain in the ass when you hit your hi beams and the truck dies and i would have to put it in neutral and restart while driving down the road. until today when i wired in two 6" Hid backup lights and tied them in so they come on when i put the truck in reverse, well guess what.. the truck died every time i put it in reverse.. It is the RF that is interfering with the unshielded ends of the F-5 cable allowing a large amount of RF to interfere with the PCM and IDM and killing the engine. I took the F-5 cable and installed 2 Ferrite beads on it right before it entered the PCM. Guess what? no more stalling. no ck engine light, no water in fuel light, no more anything. I can turn on all 5 pairs of lights at the same time with the truck running and not even 1 hickup at all. the Ferrite beads that i used are like these ones:

FERRITE SPLIT BEAD, 7MM I.D. | AllElectronics.com

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMAG0306.jpg

I have read several threads on this proble on several forums and have never heard of a absolute fix.. This works 100%.

The added backup light is unreal from the Hid's

Looking at backup camera before:
http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMAG0307.jpg

And After:
http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMAG0308.jpg:-arrgh

PaysonPSD 04-03-2011 11:32 PM

Great Fix. :-X22 What lead you to the ferrite suppression beads?

Reps sent and thanks for sharing.

Bergerson 04-03-2011 11:35 PM

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMAG0310.jpg

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMAG0311.jpg

Bergerson 04-03-2011 11:46 PM

I use them in my line of work all the time on cat 5 cables to suppress RFI on wireless back hauls and wireless Access Points on transmission towers. after running a spectrum analyzer in the cab of the truck i found that as soon as i energized the HID's they omitted huge amounts of RF in a wide range of frequencies. Figured I would give it a shot and it worked!

milleroutdoors 04-04-2011 12:11 AM

I have these to install as well. Thought I had it fixed but fogs started making my abs light come on. Funny you posted this, I am installing mine tomorrow.

Bergerson 04-04-2011 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by milleroutdoors (Post 10177834)
I have these to install as well. Thought I had it fixed but fogs started making my abs light come on. Funny you posted this, I am installing mine tomorrow.

are you installing the HID's or beads? if you need some PM me your address and I will send you a bead!

bobbyrjw 04-04-2011 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Bergerson (Post 10177788)
.... after running a spectrum analyzer in the cab of the truck..... huge amounts of RF in a wide range of frequencies.

Dang, I guess RiffRaff will start selling us sprectrum analyzers now. :-blah

I can see the new "Cold Start" Thread now: Are you clear in the 500GHz range?

Great find and fix. Reps for the diligence.

papadelogan 04-04-2011 06:30 AM

I've been dealing with this issue as well and while it was maybe 30% of the time, it's been enough of a concern that I would pull over to turn on my headlights so that I wasn't moving at all. I'll be ordering these later today if I can't find a pair in my stash of spares.

jwhitetail 04-04-2011 07:31 AM

Great work, reps to ya! you should contact DP and share your fix.

milleroutdoors 04-04-2011 08:26 AM

I have the hids, am installing the beads. Thanks for your offer.

Bergerson 04-04-2011 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by milleroutdoors (Post 10178539)
I have the hids, am installing the beads. Thanks for your offer.


Mark, what led you to the idea of trying the beads?? I haven't heard of anyone trying it yet?

WA.Ranger 04-04-2011 01:40 PM

your pm's are full! Are those the exact size needed?

Bergerson 04-04-2011 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by WA.Ranger (Post 10179615)
your pm's are full! Are those the exact size needed?

E-MAIL me, satman8@gmail.com, and yes the ones I have work perfect. If u need 1 let me know, ill mail u 1.

PaulDH 04-04-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bergerson (Post 10180018)
E-MAIL me, satman8@gmail.com, and yes the ones I have work perfect. If u need 1 let me know, ill mail u 1.

Cool discovery. Thanks for sharing this corrective fix. E-mail incoming.

milleroutdoors 04-04-2011 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Bergerson (Post 10179112)
Mark, what led you to the idea of trying the beads?? I haven't heard of anyone trying it yet?

Working with rf interference on networking cables.


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