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rbhickson99 01-07-2010 12:07 AM

Tire help- Wrangler Duratrac or ???
 
I am needing to replace my tires (Firestone destination 265/75R16) that are worn out at 55K miles. I am looking for a more agressive tread that look good but handle better in the snow and ice. I live in the Northwest so ice is the main concern. My truck is mainly used on highway and towing my 36ft 5th wheel. I occasionaly have to park and tow over grass/dirt/mud (the firestones suck for that).

Has anyone tried this tire out on a diesel crewcab F250 4X4? I hear they tend to be mushy and sway while towing. I don't need that.

Any input would be appriciated. I am thinking about upsizing to 285/75/16. Other suggestions for tires are welcome.

Thanks

Dan Jordan 01-07-2010 03:47 AM

what model firestone destinations are u using now. the LE or the AT. i have had the AT and also the MT. i have had great luck with both and they can be studded for ice.

papadelogan 01-07-2010 06:46 AM

I haven't ran the Firestones but I have Hankook DynaPro AT/M's in 265/75R16E and they are GREAT in the snow. Tons of siping from the factory. You can get them in 285 also, and I would have went that way, but they didn't have the 285s in stock when I was there buying. They look great without being a mud tire, stick very well in all conditions, E load rating, and quiet on the road.

ruschejj 01-07-2010 06:57 AM

I have the Duratrac's. They are pretty good though I don't drive in snow and ice. Just fields and mud.

I tow a lot, like 4-5000 miles every month. The tires are less stable than others I have used for towing but I don't think you'll ever find the "holy grail" of tires. I can tell you from personal experience that towing your 5er will not be uncomfortable. You may notice a little more movement from wind/passing trucks but certainly not enough to be white knuckled. Maybe a 16" tire will be stiffer than the 18" ones I have?

Only other thing, they do make noise and get a little louder with added weight of cargo or trailer.

I like them, I have not decided if I will get a second set of them or go with something else next time.

Trucky2 01-07-2010 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by papadelogan (Post 8333286)
I haven't ran the Firestones but I have Hankook DynaPro AT/M's in 265/75R16E and they are GREAT in the snow. Tons of siping from the factory. You can get them in 285 also, and I would have went that way, but they didn't have the 285s in stock when I was there buying. They look great without being a mud tire, stick very well in all conditions, E load rating, and quiet on the road.

How many miles have you got on your Hankooks now? Have you had any ice to try em out on yet? Are there enough miles to notice any wear patterns?

papadelogan 01-07-2010 09:55 AM

I probably have 8 - 10k on them. They're wearing very well. Ice.... is ice. They didn't seem bad, but honestly I go around it if possible. Compacted snow with an icy surface... *click* 4wd and go. No problems. So in my limited ice-driving experience, they did well. 24" of powder didn't faze the grip at all.... until I hammered it!!! }>

dkf 01-07-2010 10:07 AM

I was never a fan of Goodyear tires but I'm really likeing the design of the Duratrac. My next set of tires will probably be the Duratrac. Should be a pretty smooth tire on the road with the center tread design it has and I like the siping and the open tread blocks. Currently I'm running 285/75R16 D Cooper S/T and I like the tread but it is a little rough and has quite a bit of road noise, plus the overall quality of the Coopers I have now has been poor. The 285s will fit perfect and will grip better in all situations than the stockers. For the diesel I would go with E rated tires though because of the extra weight up front. Another good A/T tire is the BFG A/T KO, performs well all around and is still very quiet.

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires..._owl_ci2_l.jpg

donjamer 01-07-2010 10:59 AM

I finally got rid of the Conti Craps the truck came with and bought 4 General Grabber AT/2's..

I don't have much mileage on them, but so far they have worked great in snow/wet conditions..

I was even able to plow light snow in 2 wheel drive using them.. The Conti's would be sliding all over the place..

My son has a pair on his girlfriends jeep and they have had no problems.. They have had them a couple years..

The other benefit is they are reasonably priced..
The 4 I bought for my F350 CC Diesel cost me $941 installed..

Tire rack has them for $140 per tire..

Also I noticed that the 285/75R16 size is a load range D..

I would stick with the 265/75R16's as they are load range E..

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires..._at2_ci2_l.jpg

Thor80 01-07-2010 11:53 AM

Another Washingtonian! I'm over in Spokane. I just put a set of Bridgestone Fuzion XTI's on my rig in a 325/65/18 size. They've only been on a few weeks but I'm happy with them. I switched from a set of M/T's because I dont do that much offroading and i wanted a tire that would last longer. I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions but ESPECIALLY if you are going to be towing you NEED to stick with an "E" rated tire for the extra sidewall strength to prevent swaying. But I'm happy with the XTI's they're a nice balance between MT's and a light AT. Plenty of lug room to clear out mud but enough of the AT style to run good on the snow and ice that we get out here.

-Torsten

HMS 01-07-2010 06:33 PM

I recently bought BF Goodrich Commercial T/A Traction tires for my 00 F250 4X4.
I don't have to use 4 WD climbing my steep gravel road in NC mountains anymore. The traction is awsome. Check them out at Tirerack.com and read the reviews.

Howard

rbhickson99 01-07-2010 09:15 PM

Thanks everyone. I had the BFG's on my wifes Excursion and the wear was awesome but not much else was impressive with them. I switched to the michelins M/S2 and so far they have been perfect. I would get them for my F-250 but they look way to plain for my truck.

Dan Jordan - i have the AT's but not impressed with the wear and winter traction.

Papadelogan - I am considering the Hankooks as well, i need to find out if the 285's come in E rating. How are they on the wear and for towing?

dkf - i had coopers on my 95 diesel f250 and they wore out way to fast but otherwise a great tire. I am sticking with the E rating and i was told the wrangler duratrac does have an E rating in the 285's ( i hope he is right)

Donjamer - The generals are a good choice as well. thanks for the suggestion - have you towed anything with them yet?

Thor80 - Hello washingtonian! i make a trip to spokane every year during the hot summers. I love it over there. Your tires are bigger than mine and i am sure they would be difficult to tow with, but i will look into them at the smaller size. i had never heard of the Fuzions until now. Thanks

HMS - thanks for the suggestion, i will look into it.

Thanks and if anyone has any more suggestions, please post. It will be a week or two before i get the tires.

LaredoF350 01-07-2010 11:27 PM

Here is the tire - I see it says Bridgestone on the website, but they go under the fuzion name
TheFuzionZone.Com

rbhickson99 01-07-2010 11:44 PM

thanks, i looked at the web site but they don't show a 285/75R16 - i have to go to the 315's and that is to big for what i want. Thanks for the web site though!

donjamer 01-07-2010 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by rbhickson99 (Post 8336831)
Donjamer - The generals are a good choice as well. thanks for the suggestion - have you towed anything with them yet?


I haven't towed anything yet, but I really don't tow anything heavy anyway..

I would think they are good at towing seeing they excel with many things.

They are not loud and are wearing great..

They rate high on many of the tire rack survey points..

Consumer Survey Results By Category&

J_E_Summit 01-08-2010 11:19 AM

I am running the Generals right now.

They seam to have a break in period after rotating where they have some tread squirm.

They do tow ok and get great traction in most conditions; however, I will be lucky to get 35,000miles out of them before they are bald.

80% of my driving is highway driving with 400lb of gear and a single passanger, with some "offroading" around and infront of construction sites. I tow my 6-7k horse trailer no more then 200 miles a weekend durring the summer and pack two sleds @ 1600-1800lb plus gear about the same distance durring the winter.

Plus pulling 2 or 3 10k loads of hay 40miles to home durring the summer.

papadelogan 01-08-2010 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by donjamer (Post 8334191)
The other benefit is they are reasonably priced..
The 4 I bought for my F350 CC Diesel cost me $941 installed..


http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires..._at2_ci2_l.jpg


Not bad... but I got my Hankooks out the door for $636.xx..... :-X04

That was a year ago and the price has gone up a bit -
Tire Details - Discount Tire Direct

Rohan82 01-08-2010 03:01 PM

I just put a couple Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2's on my truck and I love them. The have a good ride, good traction, good handling in snow and ice as well as off road. I like them much better than the BFGs that were on there before. Time will tell for the tire wear. I have had them on for 5-7k miles now. Just finishede a trip from Atlanta to NYC and back and had no trouble on the raods in Virginia going through freezing rain. (Although i did have to stop a couple time to scrap my windshield and bang out my wipers). They always have a confident feel. I drive them over ice the last couple days here in Atlanta where there are no road crews to handle that kind of weather and as long as I wasn't accelerating much or braking hard, the stuck to ground pretty good. I cought a sale and paid about $360 for a pair a couple months ago for 285/75/16 E-rated.

donjamer 01-08-2010 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by papadelogan (Post 8339067)
Not bad... but I got my Hankooks out the door for $636.xx..... :-X04

That was a year ago and the price has gone up a bit -
Tire Details - Discount Tire Direct


I should have also specified mine are 270/75/R18's..

That was a great price for tires in that size

SGnAZ 01-08-2010 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rohan82 (Post 8339701)
I just put a couple Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2's on my truck and I love them. The have a good ride, good traction, good handling in snow and ice as well as off road. I like them much better than the BFGs that were on there before. Time will tell for the tire wear. I have had them on for 5-7k miles now. Just finishede a trip from Atlanta to NYC and back and had no trouble on the raods in Virginia going through freezing rain. (Although i did have to stop a couple time to scrap my windshield and bang out my wipers). They always have a confident feel. I drive them over ice the last couple days here in Atlanta where there are no road crews to handle that kind of weather and as long as I wasn't accelerating much or braking hard, the stuck to ground pretty good. I cought a sale and paid about $360 for a pair a couple months ago for 285/75/16 E-rated.

Welcome to FTE brother:-wink

redford 01-09-2010 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by HMS (Post 8335951)
I recently bought BF Goodrich Commercial T/A Traction tires for my 00 F250 4X4.
I don't have to use 4 WD climbing my steep gravel road in NC mountains anymore. The traction is awsome. Check them out at Tirerack.com and read the reviews.

Howard

Too bad they only come in 4 sizes.


225/75R16
Load Range E

235/85R16
Load Range E

245/75R16
Load Range E


265/75R16
Load Range E

ruschejj 01-09-2010 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Rohan82 (Post 8339701)
I just put a couple Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2's on my truck and I love them. The have a good ride, good traction, good handling in snow and ice as well as off road. I like them much better than the BFGs that were on there before. Time will tell for the tire wear. I have had them on for 5-7k miles now. Just finishede a trip from Atlanta to NYC and back and had no trouble on the raods in Virginia going through freezing rain. (Although i did have to stop a couple time to scrap my windshield and bang out my wipers). They always have a confident feel. I drive them over ice the last couple days here in Atlanta where there are no road crews to handle that kind of weather and as long as I wasn't accelerating much or braking hard, the stuck to ground pretty good. I cought a sale and paid about $360 for a pair a couple months ago for 285/75/16 E-rated.

The Dueler's are prob the best tire ever made for trucks. The trick is to get them. Always backordered and pricey. I don't have 'em cause the wait was over a month back when I needed tires.

08tolleya 01-09-2010 10:34 AM

I live in New England as well and I just got the toyo open country AT's and Love them

rbhickson99 02-03-2010 11:22 PM

I just wanted to update my post. I went and got the Wrangler Duratracs and i think they are great so far. I had to wait 3 weeks for them, but with only a few hundred miles on them i am very pleased.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ictureid=25410 [url]

[IMG]https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ictureid=25408[/IMG]

SGnAZ 02-04-2010 08:18 AM

Those tires look good.Do you feel any of the mushy,sidewall flex that some reviewers have complained about?Are they available with black sidewalls?

dkf 02-04-2010 09:00 AM

BSW are on the other side of the tire.;)

They look great on your truck. Same size I'd be getting. They do look more aggressive on the truck than in the pics though. Very nice.

SGnAZ 02-04-2010 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by dkf (Post 8465681)
BSW are on the other side of the tire.;)

You're right,I'm not thinking right this morning:confused:

rbhickson99 02-04-2010 09:37 AM

I drive in western washington where there is no such thing as a straight road and i have not noticed any side roll. They are inflated to 65PSI and from what i have read it sounds like those who felt the "mushy" side roll had their tires inflated a lot lower (i have heard as low as 35). This concerned me as well but they handle fine.

I won't be towing until may or june so i can't speak for how they will handle for that but once i do i will try to post an update.

One thing i did notice while researching these tires is these are horrible on the dodge's and 50/50 on the chevies. It has to have something to do with the suspension. As for the Fords it seems like most people liked them.

08tolleya 02-04-2010 10:00 AM

Hey guys, thanks for all the responses. I went with toyo open country ATS and I love them. They are on 18'' American Racing Hoss rims that are flat black. I will post pics as soon as i can

seville009 02-04-2010 12:23 PM

I put the Duratracs on my 2006 F-350 CC in September 2009. I wanted to put Cooper M&S tires on, but I needed 18" tires, and the Coopers only go up to 17".

I was wary of putting them on initially, as I had Wrangler RTS's (I think) on my first plow truck and they were terrible. I got rid of those and put Coopers on.

The Duratracs have been absolutely great though. I'm in Central NY and plow. Have had no problem whatsoever. I push snow way off onto grass and make bit piles, and I have't spun or got stuck at all this year. I'd have to say that they are just as good or better than the Coopers that I had on a previous truck.

I keep mine at 75 psi. They make alot of road noise, but I like that.

I think you'll be happy that you got them.

rbhickson99 07-26-2010 11:26 AM

Just an update:

I have now towed my 10,000 pound 5th wheel to Southern California and back (about 3500 miles total) on these tires.

The ride was great, no traction problems at all, and very little road noise (which i do like by the way). They do feel softer than my stock tires with weight on them, but not unmanageable. I towed at about 65mph and had no problem, but when i got over that speed, the front end would tend to sway a little - again, not unmanageable but noticeable.

Overall - I am very happy i chose these tires - they look awesome, ride great, provide superior traction, and did I mention they look great on my truck????

Thanks for all who posted and all the good information. I did consider them all and appriciate your input.

Richard

ruschejj 07-26-2010 07:03 PM

I wound up putting around 55K miles on my Duratrac's. Just traded the '08 in for an '11 and I miss them even though they were almost down to the wear indicators.

They do look great on your truck! Actually, they just plain look great on any Ford don't they?

My new '11 came with the Michelin highway tires, verrrry quiet but I bet I get stuck in my yard before I wear them out.

Pinky Demon 07-26-2010 09:14 PM

BFG All Terrain TA KOs.

DinorwicDanB 02-08-2016 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by redford (Post 8342641)
Too bad they only come in 4 sizes.


225/75R16
Load Range E

235/85R16
Load Range E

245/75R16
Load Range E


265/75R16
Load Range E

I just bought 235/75R15 commercial ta

Larietpsd 02-08-2016 03:04 PM

Just put 285/65/20 ko2 on my 15 250 and rides soo much better than stick michelins

PsycoJuana 02-09-2016 05:25 PM

I put a set of duratrac's on my 2011 F250 6.2L! and with our last snow here in the modwest, they rocked! and yeah after replacing the stock tires, they felt heavy and the truck a little sluggish. Popped in a K&N filter and the truck is back to normal.

Hoss416 02-09-2016 05:51 PM

I put a set of Duratracs on my dad's 99 SD (7.3 Ex. Cab Long bed). They wear good and with the little bit of freezing we got down in Vancouver, Wa, they worked great. I run the Nitto Terra Grappler M/T and have found the work just as well but they will wear faster.

-dave- 02-10-2016 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Larietpsd (Post 16024725)
Just put 285/65/20 ko2 on my 15 250 and rides soo much better than stick michelins

Me too but 18's.

But I Duratracs on my off road 4Runner and they are great as well. I just thought the KO2 would be better in snow for plowing.

Myyke 02-13-2016 08:05 AM

I've run the the duratracs up here in Northern Alberta and for me, the best tire for the ice roads, they stick well even when the highways are bad. I run mine at 75 psi (tire says 80). I managed to get 68,000 km's until i had my accident that wrote off the truck. Was looking at trying to run them to 80,0000 km, but now i'll have to try again on the new truck.

MisterCMK 02-13-2016 08:39 AM

Duratracs are hands down the best tire I've ever used in snow, ice, mud, dirt, etc. They wear well too!


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