New Strategy Matts tunes
My 2006 F350 was in the shop and i requested the newest flash to get rid of the buzzing. My new strategy is VXCF5H5 TQCK0T5, anybody else have this strategy. Im wondering if it will work with my current tunes from Spartan or will i need to get some new tunes made up for me?
Thanks, DB |
You should get new tunes. Don't forget to unlock your SCT and ensure your new stock calibration is uploaded to your device- this should be the first thing you do so you don't forget.
Mark |
You will need new tunes and I hate to tell you but your new tunes won't be as good. I had my truck flashed and I have the VXC strategy as well and they flash the fuel control module and you can't get a whole lot of fuel out of it and your mileage will go down. Mine went from 17 to 14.
Matt told me that with this tune you can really only get 80 ponies extra out of it. It sucks, I'm trying to find some one to flash my truck back to the old strategy. |
I think Todder pretty much has you guys covered on the info with this.
The VXCF5 flashes really blow. Period. Ford has the max pulsewidth in the Fuel Injection Control Module pulled back so far that even some of our hottest files (and any other flash tuners or other modules) struggle to produce 100rwhp gains; the mileage suffers likewise. With the SCT or no other flash tuner on the market currently flashing the FICM, there sadly are no fixes at the moment. We have preliminarily released a few benchtop-tuned FICM's to beta-test customers (which will bring the power and economy levels back up where they previously were) but this is still under development. Flash-tuning of the FICM is also being looked into; but the hardware and software necessary to do so is still several months out on the retail market. As far as the tunes you currently have, just shoot us an email. We will need to reformat for the new 5H5 flash and get your files back to you. |
How can I find out what strategy I have in my truck? I had the truck in for a new fuel injector and fuel regulator about 2 months ago.
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There is an option on the SCT for reading strategy. Just scroll through the menu until you find it.
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How new is this flash, and what is the reasoning for Ford to develop it
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well thats kind of a bummer, i was so used to the power of the tunes i got from Matt. Now I wish i wouldnt have had them update the flash, I could have lived with the buzzing if I knew it would make such a difference in power output.
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hey matt my strategy is vxap2b2 tqau0n2. any good? this strategy stuff is interesting.
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If... one could find someone to flash an older strategy, which one is considered the best?
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Originally Posted by rtprestw
If... one could find someone to flash an older strategy, which one is considered the best?
i've noticed on my strategies the peak HP and torque are both high around 3000 rpm, and the ones for the 05 and newer trucks the peaks for both are around 2000-2200rpm.. i think this is why i'll be able to make higher peak HP than those guys but there is no way i'll put down the torque numbers that they can.. since i'm going to a NONvgt turbo (very soon matt wink,wink nudge) which would have more lag than stock, i think this will actually be a blessing since i will be operating at higher rpms which would most likely be necessary to fully spool anyway.. or i could just be high and dead wrong, since i'm taking a huge guess on this last part about the turbo, maybe it would be worse since a lower rpm torque peak would probably help spool it sooner ?? now i'm confused, gotta stop smoking the peace pipe with my girl before i get on here :) |
ok...so this thread has worried me a little...in the process of switching from edje w/ att to an sct by spartan cuz of the power benefits....edge has been great to me so far no matter what people say, just looking for more power....my strategy is VXAPVXAP2N2 TQAU7AFTHEX is this going to cause me problems or be a lesser tune due to the strategy??
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matt i sent u an email on this concern as well as some questions on my tranny.
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Originally Posted by 2003 Stroke
ok...so this thread has worried me a little...in the process of switching from edje w/ att to an sct by spartan cuz of the power benefits....edge has been great to me so far no matter what people say, just looking for more power....my strategy is VXAPVXAP2N2 TQAU7AFTHEX is this going to cause me problems or be a lesser tune due to the strategy??
Currently, the only ones giving power problems are VXCF5H5 and the very newest VXDB1 series flashes. These would only apply for 2006 and 2007 trucks which have been reflashed in the past 30-60 days. |
Originally Posted by 2003 Stroke
ok...so this thread has worried me a little...in the process of switching from edje w/ att to an sct by spartan cuz of the power benefits....edge has been great to me so far no matter what people say, just looking for more power....my strategy is VXAPVXAP2N2 TQAU7AFTHEX is this going to cause me problems or be a lesser tune due to the strategy??
anyway the short and simple answer to your question is this: regardless of what strategy you have, the SCT (w/custom tuning) will make more power than the edge SAFELY i might add. remember the edge does not control the TCM or the PCM like the SCT can, it merely intercepts timing and fueling signals between the PCM and FICM and modifies them. Most of the power made by edge is in the form of advanced timing, which is not the safe way to make power on the 6.0... and the extra power produced by the edge will, in many cases, be enough to overpower the tranny and send it packing down the road. The SCT can program the tranny to shift properly with the added power, and to handle the extra power with more line pressure. I'm positive this has probably already been stated in this thread, maybe even by me, if so then i apologize for wasting time and bandwidth, i just want to make sure you realize there is the possibility of damage with EDGE.. of course there is the possibility of damage any time we mod our rigs, but the SCT has proven itself to be safer as well as faster. and yes, i have had to buy a new tranny because of EDGE, and my buddy has gone through 3 of them on his truck (dmax) but for some reason he always buys a new one when his takes a dump. he loves that little evil box. :) hope this helps. |
Thanks Matt! I left a message this morning patiently waiting to hear back about my tunes...
# of digits that sct spit out at me not sure how many i was suppose to have...i'm by no means a guru, just trying to get educated. and yes i have a fear of the edge doing some damage, but as of now everything seems to work as is suppose to. i had the juice and i know still not all that friendly, but a little easier on the tranny than the original. my buddy lost a tranny to it too. either way I'm SCT'r now...thanks for the replies Doug |
the preliminary ficm procedure feels much better up top, i love being a guinnie pig!!!Anything new im ready for it lol
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When I recieve the tunes for my new strategy, what do i have to do to unlock my SCT? I thought it only needed to be unlocked if you were changing vehicles. Also how I do ensure that I have my new stock file downloaded onto my SCT, does this happen when i read my strategy?
Thanks, DB |
You only need to unlock your tuner if you get a new update from Ford. That will then enable the device to save that new stock file. There is an unlock feature on the liveload software. Do be sure you save your new stock file anytime you get one.
Mark |
Sorry to hijack:-hijacked But do yall know if I have to put my truck back to stock if I'm going to update the SCT software.
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Yes you do. There is a warning that is something goes wrong during the update you can loose your stock file. So you should go back to stock, update your programmer then flash your truck to what ever tune you normaly run. I do think there is a backup stock tune to PC option, but I have not tried to restore from it.
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Ok Thank you. How do you like the Hybrid Race?
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Lots of power!! It works good at 5000' but runs pig rich and has some other problems at my normal 7500'
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I want have elevation problems I live near see level.
Do you get much smoke? |
Huge amounts of smoke, even at idle. But I think that is being caused by the elevation.
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I'll give it a try. I just got my custom tunes today.
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Whoa, Don't you just have to make sure your stock tunes are upload to your PSD when changing your SCT firmware (.lwu) version???? Do you have to do it for software (.lfu) upgrades?
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SCt was warning that is you have a tune loaded, and you update the firmware on the tuner, If there was a problem during the update it could loose the stock image file. With all of the bugs that SCT has with the Livewire i do not trust it not to loose anything.
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I believe I saw a discussion of putting a switch in somewhere/somehow that would block a dealer from installing a new flash unless the switch was "on". Am I just getting too old to remember right? Is there a way to take my stock tune that has been captured to my SCT and store it on another computer where I could recover it and re-install it onto my truck if I ever get a flash I don't like. (I have No Idea what I am talking about here beyond programs can be saved, loaded, moved etc. If this is totally stupid, just ignore my second question). My two cents worth.... rc
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GTPSteve have you tried the ASE tune?
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I've been running the ASE for the last month.... The increased power and better shifting points does great to compensate for the 37's I'm turning....
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I think im going to try the ASE first.
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Originally Posted by Joshua0606
GTPSteve have you tried the ASE tune?
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I tried out the hybrid race last night. WOW I liked it but it just seemed a little to much. What kind of mileage do you get with the hybrid race?
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Originally Posted by GTPSteve
Yes you do. There is a warning that is something goes wrong during the update you can loose your stock file. So you should go back to stock, update your programmer then flash your truck to what ever tune you normaly run. I do think there is a backup stock tune to PC option, but I have not tried to restore from it.
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Originally Posted by Joshua0606
I tried out the hybrid race last night. WOW I liked it but it just seemed a little to much. What kind of mileage do you get with the hybrid race?
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Originally Posted by tippmann87
When I updated my livewire to the newest firmware, it could not recognize my truck. At first I thought my stock file was lost, but I couldn't figure out how to restore it. I have it saved on my computer, but the PC software doesn't like it when I try to transfer it to the livewire. I put the older firmware back on my livewire and it works fine now.........
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Originally Posted by GTPSteve
did you also update the the latest tune file ver 1.0.9 ?
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try this. 1. return truck to stock. 2. update flash 3. update canned tunes 4. then try and flash truck to tune.
if that does not work you may have to call SCT or your dealer. Did you ever get intouch with Matt and order proper tunes? if so then do not worry about the canned tunes!! |
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