Ford 300 vs. Dodge 360
 

alright i have this moron friend who has 96 Ram with a 360. All he ever does is bad mouth fords. HE always brags how he has thisi big ass 5.9L 360ci dodge engine. He tells me how im stupid for getting the legendary 300, he tells me 6 cylinder engines do not belong in trucks. He tells me how his dodge will last forever and how my ford with 143k is gonna give me nothin but problems. He has only 83k miles on his truck and he has problems all the time. In your opinion what do u think is a better engine? Which is better for towing, hauling, and durability. Plus give me somethin to say to him that will put his dodge down and realize that dodges SUCK!

dodges SUCK!:-X09

well his engine has way more power that yours, but its a big V8. he probably gets like 10 mpg's. i think the 5.9 is a nice engine, but its impractical for daily driving. the straight six gets great fuel efficiency, but will haul when you want it too.

does your friend realize that the cummins diesel in the dodge ram's is a 5.9 straight six? also, almost every tractor trailer is a straight six. the inline six is a real truck engine, not a V8. do you think a V8 will haul 80,000 lbs haha. say "what are those two extra cylinders in your truck for? i'll bet you can out pull all those 18 wheelers w/the straight six's (say it sarcasticly)"

print these pages out for him.

http://refrigeratedtrans.com/ar/tran...ides/index.htm

http://www.etrucker.com/apps/news/article.asp?id=23768

stick w/ your 300-6...it'll give you double the miles you have currently, with the proper care and maintainence, and a few rebuilds if you want...it'll have all the pulling power you'll ever want, even if you don't have the horsepower of a v-8...the 300 has been around for 40+ years...there must be a reason for it...obviously it is a good motor, or it would not have lasted that long...granted, the dodge 360 is a good motor...my uncle loves his, and it's a 70-some with, i believe 200,000+ miles...but it has been well maintained and taken care of...all the 360 is, tho, is a bored-out 318...just some thoughts of mine...i love the 300...it's an awesome motor that will generally give you more in longevity than you could ever dream....

MontanaFord

Dodge sucks and needs to die! They should start making go-karts or something, and putting their engines in them.

I see a bunch of kids here... Brand loyalty is for the birds...

As for our origional poster, I'll bet if your friend had the 300 powered Ford and you had the Dodge, he'd be bragging about the 300... Some people are like that, just ignore it, it's not worth getting worked up over.
Properly maintained, both engines will probably last just as long.

I wouldn't worry about what he says, we all know the 300 is a great engine, and the dodge 360, is ok. I've worked on plenty of both of them.

Best way to shut him up is ignore it, because it really isn't worth getting bothered over.

Keep the oil changed, tuned up, and maybe a few speed parts added, and don't worry about his bucket mouth....just smile & wave as you pass.

I'm sure the 360 is a stronger motor.

The 300 is great, i love mine to death, but that doesn't make it invincable. Its great for 300ci. Now if the 360 is great for 360ci, well its got that 60 cubes on the 300.

What the 300 lacks in power (and this only due to its size when compared to the other, bigger v8 truck motors) it makes up for in longevity and loyalty. What a great motor.

I'm gunna feel bad if i end up swapping in the 460... but probably only for a little while :D

The 300 should be in a ranger. }>

Big 6 is better. Dodge 360 is a good motor, but the 6 is way more reliable. My dad's has over 200,000, and I know a guy with over 350,000 miles, w/o a rebuild.

the 360 is not just a bored out 318, the 318 has a stroke of 3.31, the 360 is 3.58, the bore on a 318 is 3.94, and the 360's bore is 4.00, its alot different, I love dodge, and I like ford just as much, I just cant get enough my my f-150 4x4 5 spd. the 360 in my 1970challenger has 485 horspower, and I love pulling it to the track with my ford!

Just tell him that your 6 cyl is a big block, and his 360 is a small block. it doesnt mean much, but if its bragging your looking for then use it. thats about all the bragging rights its got.

Re: Ford 300 vs. Dodge 360
 

the post 1992 360 magnum is a pathetic, weak, gas guzzling, cylinder head cracking boat anchor.

his 96 dodge is a overly front heavy truck with a weak motor and a bad transmission and small brakes.

Dodge stopped making real trucks in 92-93 (some 1-tons kept the old frame and body style into the 93 model year)

I really don't know anything about Dodge; but, it seems that my neighbor's big Dodge truck is always parked in the garage or driveway broke down.

I drive by almost everyday in my '86 150 with a 300 IL & 170 K miles.

I am not sure who has the best truck; but, I am glad my neighbor's wife has a good car for him to drive to the parts store.

:-X04

.Find yourself a new friend who isn't a moron. Or, just ignore the one you've got.
:-X01
It's all so junior high school-ish.

Stick with your 300. I used to work on dodges all day every day. Next time your friend blows a gasket, rmind him you still have your factory originals. And to say that the ram is front heavy, well so is the 4.9 F150. the 4.9 is fords heavyest block. thats because every thing is cast. (very good thing) And for bragging rights. I have raced many of rams, still have to lose to one yet. I'm still running stock. well except for a K&N air filter and ripped off my muffler.

Move over toyota boy, real men drive Fords!!!!
94 F150 4.9 inline six.

thank you River for the exact dimensions of the 318 vs. 360....i knew i was missing something...the blocks for the 318 and the 360, tho, are the same, according to my uncle...don't quote me on it, tho...

MontanaFord

The best thing you can do is both of you pull a trailer with the weights close as possiable, and see who runs out of gas first.

Proportional to cubic inches the 300 I6 is by far the better engine. He is just picking on a smaller engine. Why I could tell him his 360 sucks because my motorhome has a 460 Ford and it is way more powerful than his puny 360. Where does it end? If he wants to compare with you he should first trade in his truck for a 318, still biger but definitely not better. Or he should find someone with a Ford 351 V8 to pick on.

thats very true. its like saying the 300 is junk because the cummins will out pull it.

just remember: you probably get double the gas mileage. my friend just bought a 5.9 dodge. its real powerful, but at a cost.

Hehehe, reminds me of a buddy of mine with a 360 in his dodge pickup, he wanted to race my 95 pickup with the big 6 and 5spd, i blew its doors off on the take off, but he started to ketch up, good thing we ran out of road or he would made a fool out of me. Ohh well, goes to show big cubes dont mean anything if you dont know how to use 'em.

I like the 5.9 engine just not the tranny's dodge put under it. The 4.9 I6 is problably my favorite gas engine of all time. But i think racing a 318 would be foolish. I own a 318 right now and there is no possible way that an I6 could keep up with me. Its so much faster. But it lacks pulling power and durability.

Just keep asking him..."Hey, that thing got a hemi?"
or
Like two guys in a sauna, say..."My engine's longer than yours!"
Maybe enough of that will shut him up.

MR

Wow jessfactor, a jack--- classmate of mine has a 94 dodge with w/ a 360 and I drive a 86 w/ a 300. He doesn't say to much and it's a good thing he doesn't cause he treats that truck like a baby, he's really cheap and won't go anywhere he doesn't have to, because of the "wear and tear" on his poor pick-up. I bet if I drove his pick-up for a week like I drive my old 300 that dodge would start taking oil and be in the shop w/ the the tranny out and probably blow a head gasket. No other engine out there (stock) can take a beating like a 300 in my book. I run mine above 4000rpms a few times daily just to make noise, it has 225k on it and is pretty much all original except for the timing gears (thanks to 4000rpms) and the POS carb. otherwise I've been tryin to blow this thing up for the past 2 years and she won't give in to that 351W I wanna drop in. I'd feel bad taking out a running engine. Once I get my 351 built (highly unstreet legal, but this is NE) I'll be smokin everything around, and probably be out of money since the engine will cost me about 3000 and it'll get 5mpg, but who cares, it's fast and loud, isn't that all that matters in life? Ha-ha-ha

Well actually the 360 and 273 share the same block. Seems like those cylinder walls would be gettin' a bit thin :-X10 . But seriously, those Dodge 360 trucks ain't all that bad. They seem to track real good when towed behind my F150 300 :-X24......Van

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the I6 that I have in my '83 bronco has 492,800 some miles on it, never been rebuilt. Still runs great, doesnt any burn oil beyond the norm.(ie no blue smoke from the tailpipe, and I dont have to add oil at every fillup)

Sure the 360 is a bit more powerful, but it runs at a higher RPM and has 2 more cylinders. Its gonna run itself to a grinding halt a lot sooner than your I6. If your goign for raw power, higher top end speed and you dont care how long it lasts or the gas mileage, sure go for the 360, But if you want an engine that gives you almost the same towing capacity but that will last you a whole lot longer go for the I6. I mean the only real downside I can find with my I6 is that it tops out about 80 MPH

I dont really have any opinion for or against dodge. And I like VWs better than Fords atm. if only the for fact that my diesel gulf gets about 55 mpg.

DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR YOU CAN LAUGH YOURSELF TO THE BANK WHEN YOUR LITTLE PUNNY i6 NEVER BAKES DOWN AND HE ASKS YA FOR A RIDE TO THE PARTS STORE!!!! 82 F 250 300 i6 317,000 NO REBUILD NO OIL USE!!!!

My aunt has a 2000 Dodge 1500 w/the mighty 360 in it, and it recently blew w/42,000 miles on it. Shes the type that drives it like a car. My 300 has over 100,000 on it and is used. So you figure it out

well here ya go.... just the other day a dodge with a 360 (2WD) (AUTO) asked me to a pull-off, being the polite gentleman that i am i obliged ;) my 300-6 back by a T18 and 4 low. Revved up the engines a couple times then we let fly. i started to lose, then dumped the clutch, i dragged that guys arse all over the freakin place.

I don't like to put down any american truck. As for lasting I would have to pick the ford 300(4.9) check out forum (miles on your 4.9) lets see a 360 do that. the 360 might be able to pull down the highway faster not better than the 300. but he is going to replace his tranny all the time unless he knows some one that can put a old beefed up 727 trans. in it. your tranny will hold up to annything you can through at it. I think the 300 six is one of the best engines you can get it is not a racer but the has plenty of torque to do anything a v8 from the compition will do. Thats why the F150 has been the best selling truck in over 10 years. If you want to race the dodge will probaly win, but who runs trucks in the 1/4 mile? thats what mustangs are for. Conclusion I would take a 300 over a 360 any day of the week. Just a note im not even a FORD man I own A couple FORD trucks but I am A goodrich(GM) man but I don't think GM makes a engine as good as the 4.9(300) Ford.
TA

Thanks for your your unbiased opinion.

I had a truck with a 360 in it, and had really bad luck with it. It was an extremely un reliable and gutless motor, that got 6 mpg. Just my actual experiance. That truck was possessed by the Devil or something. Of course it was from 1979, the dark, dark, days of abyssmal quality from Detriot, across all brands.

paxle...that's a good point...i've heard that the vw diesels get 50+ to the gallon...helluva lot better than ANY american made gasoline motor, other than the ford festiva/geo metro cars...and they're tin cans in any respect...

MontanaFord

As many have pointed out, it is comparing apples to oranges.

I have the 300 in my truck, it is great for low end torque, low on maintenance, fuel injected and gets decent mileage, 140k miles on it.

I also have a 318 (related engine to the 360) in a full sized conversion van that I got when an uncle passed away. 166k miles on it, a couple MPG less (but only the 3 speed auto and carbed).

Both get regular servicing every 5000 miles (mostly highway).

The van does a little better pulling the hills, the truck is better for hauling a load.

I have also had 318 dodges that have gone over 300k miles. Basically, it is maintenance that makes the difference. If you take care of most any engine it will last. Heck, my father even got over 200k out of a GM 2.8 litre (crappy v6) before he sold the s-10 it was in (still ran fine).

My previous truck was an 01' Ram standard cab with the 5.9 in it. It had the Off-Road package so it came with 4.10 gears. That thing had balls. I was very meticulous about servicing it. I never had any problems with the motor. I traded it in with 63,000 miles on it with no problems. I did abuse it a bit so I'm not sure how long it would have lasted. I agree, maintainence is key.

I have a 98 Dodge 4x4 with the 360 as well as a 64 Ford with a 300 engine from a 75. My Dodge is used mostly to pull misc. loads such as hay and does a great job. My Ford is my daily driver and a work in progress. It does seem to pull up hills better. But I love both trucks.

Dude i Hear you on this. You have the better Truck. let him talk and make a$$ out of himself. His right hand is probally his best friend.

You are compairing apples and oranges. If you want to race get a v8, if you want torque get a i6.
As for what last longer, its all maintance. With this said i will also say that based on experiance, the ford will get longer service out of the factory parts. My 89 K1500 (R.I.P.-- lost an arguement with a peterbuilt) with the 5.7 (350) would outrun the F100 with the 4.9, but most of the time i had to pull the chevy home with the ford. I have no experiance with the 360, but I do know that I outrun most Dodges i came across with my Chevy.
If you want to put down dodges then tell him "Hey at leastford is still a private company, can dodge say this? no, the government has a controlling share of dodge."

Your friend is an idiot. The 300 was built by Ford to be a truck engine. It's even used in industrial applications.

His V8 would eat your 300 a hundred times over. But it's a big V8.

Tell him to go grab a Dodge Ram with a V6 magnum and hook up. The 300 would eat it and spit it out a hundred times over.

You fellers is tryin' to yell back over 5 years....

And the most recent activity from anyone on this page prior to your posts is over a year ago...

And the OP's last post was the one starting this thread--him and his moron friend must have killed each other.

Oops, I didn't see the dates.

What I said still stands.