What front axel do I have?
 

4500lb 8400 gvw heavy tow pkg Thanks, Bill sorry, nevermind, pics did not work for me https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ictureid=79942

take a picture of the diff, or it is stamped on the axle beside the diff cover either a 44 or a 60.

rear
 

If thats the rear there? its a dana 44, most likley 3:55 gears

That my friend, would be the holy grail. D60 fo shizzle.

-Jared

I hope this is sarcasm.

-Jared

just woundering how you can tell from looking at the lockouts?

i allways just look to see if it has kingpins and the diff cover

The lockout just looks a little different. The way the bevel is around the outside, the recess of the allen screws, the overall size of it. I've found enough that I generally can tell from a good distance. I thought about glossing myself the "Dana 60 hunter", but 'm pretty sure I'm the only one that would find that funny. Family and friends would disown me, I'd probably lose my job. It might be worth it though, or not.

-Jared(Dana 60 Hunter)

EDIT- The last part of this is tongue in cheek, as in not serious. You know, meant to be funny. I get a funny feeling from the posts below this that it's not coming off that way.

He can't, it's either a 44 or 60, need more info to discern.

Want to bet?

-Jared

Same hub as this.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC00005-6.jpg

And this.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC00007-2.jpg

-Jared

And this.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC00006-6.jpg

Like I said, I've found a few. The factory spicer lockouts on a D60 Ford front axle are unique. Don't hate on me because I can tell that from a photo.

-Jared

Not "hatin" dude, just relaying facts, a D44 hub is depicted below, how you discern that from D60 via a pic is beyond me, must have special powers...

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...79rusthub1.jpg

Yeah, except you just posted a picture of a D60 kingpin front axle. Is that not the four bolt kingpin retaining plate I see at the very top of the pic on the far knuckle?

-Jared

Good eye ;) , but my point still stands.

Hold on a minute, you didn't by chance just google this:

79 ford dana 44 front image

to come up with that picture? Just wondering, because it was on the first page there. If so you might want to look a little closer. There are more than one kingpin D60 fronts in that little group of pictures. Get back to me when you have some facts.

I seriously cannot be the only guy on this board that can discern a D44 high pinion ford hub from the 60 version. They are totally different looking.

-Jared

Sorry guys, did not mean to start a pissing contest. I just went out and found the following numbers 610023 2 and 3 54 D81AYD. On a tag between two bolts on the cover. Help any? Thanks, Bill

I have literally thousands of pics "googled" so it's very possible, but you still have yet to refute my point with anything other than empty words.

I'm not sure what you mean? The op has a 60 and I called it. You posted a 60 and thought it was a 44, and I called that. What else can I do to prove my "mystical powers"?

To the op, take a 1/2" inch wrench and a 9/16" inch wrench under the truck. A 60 has 9/16" cover bolts, and 44's have 1/2". Either that or go take a picture of the rest of it. Either way, it's a 60. Nice find by the way.

-Jared

ok... wise guys i really didnt look at the taper on the hub..it will be my last mistake..

He may very well have, but you obscure the point, you can't distinguish a 44 from a 60 by the hubs alone, i hope the dude does have a 60, if so i'd offer him $500 for it (as i need one). ;)

That is your opinion bud. Your opinion is wrong. It really is that simple. I proved my point twice. How can you say it's not possible? Have you ever seen a 60? If so than why would you post one thinking it was a 44? What don't you get about the fact that the factory hubs are visually dissimilar? On top of that, the diameter of the hub itself is noticeably different as well. Those spicer lockouts that I posted are factory ford D60 components. They don't fit a 44. They look different than a 78/79 ford D44 spicer lockout. Am I being clear enough?

-Jared

I posted the numbers above, Thanks, Bill

The cover bolts are 9/16th.

Edit* Point proven. Thats all.

-Jared

Congrats on the D60, they weren't all that common on the 78/79 F250's (outside of the sno-fighter package). :-X22

Thanks for all the info, I thought it was cool I have the build sheet. Its going to be ugly when I place the new tan bed on a maroon and silver cab. Using Hammerite on the framewhile the beds off. neat site, Bill

they made a d44 with the same lockouts as a 60 i have a few of them close knuckle and a hp 44 with the same looking lockouts as my old 60 you would think all my trucks have a 60 not hateing but my close knuckel 44 and a 79 60 i have are the same lockouts just diff spline for the outer shaft

Hi, I posted the numbers, the cover bolts are 9/16ths, four (4) large bolts bottom kingpin. Is there still a question about it? thanks, Bill

Thanks for the confirmation, reps sent! :-X22

Which bolts are you referring to? cover bolts or the bolts on the knuckle? check the bolts on the inspection cover on the "pumpkin", 1/2"=D44 9/16"=D60

I think the OP is saying he knows he has a D60 why keep beating it to death.

Quite the contrary, if you read the OP's posts he's seeking confirmation. ;)

I don't mean to keep feeding the fire here but I would like to see a set of 44 hubs that look like 60's. My closed knuckle 44 sure didnt have them and I never seen any that did. I can't see how its possible the internal hubs of the 44 and 60 are totally different sizes. I've seen the large external highboy type 44 hubs put into the HP 44's but never a 60 hub stuffed into in early LP closed knuckle 44.

You confirmed it last night

Apparently not, he's back today asking for confirmation, read post #29 :p

unbelivable :-X15

Exactly, Thanks for the info, I will stay out of the cat fight now, Bill

Well at least I'm not the only one that feels that way. I'm done pounding my head against the wall here, but you are correct in your previous post. The lockouts, as well as the hubs, do not interchange between any D44 and any D60 front. That includes the D44HD. The lockouts that were the genesis of this discussion, the factory ford spicer units that fit the D60, WILL NOT FIT A D44 or D44HD. Period, point blank. To say that you had them on a closed knuckle D44HD is false. They are both chrome plated with a red center dial and allen head screws, but they look COMPLETELY different. I don't see how anyone could argue that. I'm done waging battle with people that haver no clue. Believe what you want. I'll just keep collecting the 60's.

-Jared

It sounds like we are on the same page:-drink

Oh no you can't leave your the reason this started j/k:-X04
Good luck with your 60 you have what everyone wants.