Originally Posted by gstrostle
(Post 9284143)
I'm new to the forum, just registered today. Glad to see there are other C truck enthusiasts out there. Mine is a 83 C-700 tractor with a 8.2 Detroit Diesel, 4 speed Allison AT, and air brakes. It started life with the Pennsylvania State Forestry Dept who used it to move trailers around various parks. Bought it in Binghamton NY this March. Just turned 40,000 miles on the trip back (original miles) to Pennsylvania. No body rust and good shine left in that old paint. Planning to restore it with occasional use pulling my 33 ft 5th wheel RV. Have Ford factory service manuals (D) Medium/Heavy duty body,
chassis, electrical and (E) Engines, as well as various wiring diagrams for the C series, H series, and some F series medium/Heavy trucks. So if anyone out there needs some info, let me know and I will gladly share what ever I have. Will post a picture later after I get the new stainless steel mirrors and quarter fenders installed. |
Originally Posted by Mike-fire32
(Post 10397882)
Getting your CDL with an air brake endorsement would be a walk in the park compared to changing out the brakes.
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Originally Posted by Crete
(Post 10404818)
I don't know. Getting a CDL with an air brake endorsement could prove to be very difficult considering there is no such thing.;)
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Originally Posted by Mike-fire32
(Post 10404869)
In Oregon and Washington, both an air brake endorsement and a tank endorsement are required to drive any vehicle equipped with air brakes and a cargo tank carrying more than 119 gallons. I am going through the process right now for work in order to legally drive fire apparatus (firefighters are exempt at work but are required to have a cdl to drive commercially) and had to take those tests along with the basic cdl test just to get the permit. I believe CDL requirements are consistant across the country, so I'm not sure where you got your information.
A tanker endorsement is only required if you are operating a CMV with a cargo tank over 119 gallons. You are right this is consistent across the country, you should double check your information |
Ok, if you want to split hairs, it's not an endorsement, but a restriction. If you do not take and pass the test for air brakes, you are restricted from driving equipped with such. Regardless of what you want to call it, there are specific requirements in order to drive a vehicle with air brakes.
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Originally Posted by Mike-fire32
(Post 10404913)
there are specific requirements in order to drive a vehicle with air brakes.
BTW it is not splitting hairs.;) |
Originally Posted by Crete
(Post 10404916)
Only if it requires a CDL.
BTW it is not splitting hairs.;) |
Originally Posted by Mike-fire32
(Post 10404947)
Whatever....I will let you have the last word. I know what I need to do in order to get my CDL, which includes an air brake test, so that's all I care about. Good day.
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brakes
ANY and all vehicle that has air brakes require a CDL.
And yes air brakes is an endorsement. It will clearly be labled on your CDL under the heading of ENDORSEMENTS . I carry the endorsements of B for airbrakes P for Passenger and N for tanker. CDL is a standard that is set at the federal level so all states will have the same endorsements. http://www.cdldigest.com/cdl_endorsements/ http://www.cdlinfo.com/cdl_endorsements.htm |
Thanks workshoprat.
When I made the comment to Steve about getting a CDL with an air brake endorsement, it was to make a point that getting a CDL would be easier than changing from air brakes to hydraulic brakes. It is a shame when people feel the need show how much they know (or don't know) about a particular subject in order to direct the attention upon themselves. The purpose of this thread is to share our interest, knowledge and experience with Ford C series trucks, so let's stay focused on that instead of having public debates. |
Originally Posted by Mike-fire32
(Post 10407221)
Thanks workshoprat.
When I made the comment to Steve about getting a CDL with an air brake endorsement, it was to make a point that getting a CDL would be easier than changing from air brakes to hydraulic brakes. It is a shame when people feel the need show how much they know (or don't know) about a particular subject in order to direct the attention upon themselves. The purpose of this thread is to share our interest, knowledge and experience with Ford C series trucks, so let's stay focused on that instead of having public debates. |
Originally Posted by workshoprat
(Post 10406665)
ANY and all vehicle that has air brakes require a CDL.
Originally Posted by workshoprat
(Post 10406665)
And yes air brakes is an endorsement.
Originally Posted by workshoprat
(Post 10406665)
It will clearly be labled on your CDL under the heading of ENDORSEMENTS.
Originally Posted by workshoprat
(Post 10406665)
I carry the endorsements of B for airbrakes.
Originally Posted by workshoprat
(Post 10406665)
CDL is a standard that is set at the federal level so all states will have the same endorsements.
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Originally Posted by Mike-fire32
(Post 10407221)
The purpose of this thread is to share our knowledge.
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Originally Posted by workshoprat
(Post 10406665)
ANY and all vehicle that has air brakes require a CDL.
And yes air brakes is an endorsement. It will clearly be labled on your CDL under the heading of ENDORSEMENTS . I carry the endorsements of B for airbrakes P for Passenger and N for tanker. CDL is a standard that is set at the federal level so all states will have the same endorsements. CDL Endorsements CDL Endorsements If a driver either fails the air brake component of the general knowledge test or performs the skills test in a vehicle not equipped with air brakes, the driver is issued an air brake restriction, restricting the driver from operating a CMV equipped with air brakes. Maybe you could tell us letter represents the "cargo endorsement". LOL |
Originally Posted by Mike-fire32
(Post 10407221)
Thanks workshoprat.
... The purpose of this thread is to share our interest, knowledge and experience with Ford C series trucks, so let's stay focused on that instead of having public debates. "You want to build a model of THIS?" (he looked like he'd be more at home in a Corvette) He continued, "Well, if you want to build a model of it, go ahead, but don't ever buy one!" I figured the odds of me ever actually buying one would be slim to none, but I'm glad I didn't listen! Here's the model. I still have it. In fact these pictures are recent. http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/P3230290.jpg http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/P3230291.jpg http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/P3230292.jpg It's a pretty faithful replica, except it should have had black 5 hole Budds rather than white spyders. And a Weyco decal on the cab. The bed and stakes, tarp cover were scratchbuilt. I still build models, and plan to build one of my crane truck. In the meantime, I'm sure having a blast playing with the real one! Dan |
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