It would be nice to see a bigger diesel engine in an F-150, the F150 frames and components are more than up to challange, just add beefer front coils and a quad shock suspension. Ford could also create a new line of F150's diesels trucks, on their frame lines, and keep the same body style, put a different badge "F-150 Diesel", that would be awesome.

I think that they would have the same problem that they have now with the Escape Hybrid. Two otherwise identical trucks, sitting side-by-side. One costs $5000 more than the other. The only real difference is the engine.

I don't think so, lot of customers would enjoy a diesel engine in their truck, more torque and more power and the capabilities of towing a bigger load.

That is definitely true, if ford offered a good diesel engine in the F150 I would buy it today. I have no need for heavy duty towing like the SD, but a smaller truck like the F150 would fit the bill perfectly.

It will only benifit the F150 if it gets "good" mileage (like 20+) and isn't priced out of the market, no matter if it has better towing potential or not a lot of F150 drivers aren't gonna want to deal with the hassel of the diesel unless it has these two things. The way it is now the tow rating shouldn't go up because the rest of the truck doesn't have enough heft to be towing more than 10k lbs saftley anyway, diesel or no diesel!! So who's gonna pay more for the truck if it is no more capable, doesn't get much better mileage, and cost more to buy and to maintain?? I surely wouldn't, now if its say a $2500 option and it'll get 20+ mpg on the highway I would buy one if an F150 suited my needs, although it would also have to gave acclereation like a gas engine and be quite enough that I could go through the drive though without shutting it off!

Well done man.:-X22

Who is to dictate what one needs, and what one wants? If we were living in a "need" based society, we'd all be communists. The fact is, people can own what they want. You can't call someone a yuppy, just because he owns an F-250 SD truck, and doesn't use it to the maximum amount possible. That person may have a large family, take constant road trips, needs the space, needs the power, likes the versatility for when it is needed, or just hauls stuff on the weekend, and finds the vehicle more comfortable. That's ridiculous to assume they don't need it.

jschira-Your GTO/Camry comparison could be held against the F-150/SD comparison you made earlier. You said Ranger, but we'll sub in the F-150 since it's got a similiar price, and applys to exactly what you were saying. Basically all you've done in this thread is call yourself out on your own double standards. Well done.


Now, who here is really surprised that the import companies are actually entering this market? It's no big secret that they've been planning the entry for a while now. Whether or not they can execute it, is another story. The import trucks have shown me nothing good in terms of styling, exterior and interior, and even though some people like to believe it, their reliability is no better. So I ask all of you...wheres the incentive?

can you give an actual breakdown of the profits?

Just a quick reminder - I think this thread was started to discuss Nissans potential new entrant to the HD diesel segment, not why people purchase an F250.

Interesting link there Miramichi_hockey!!!

In regards to that I loo forward to seeing what they make. But I think Toyota and Fuji have a better chance at the top of the mountain

Whats that supposed to mean? Keep in mind I'm 18, and years away from that stuff!;)http://images.ford-trucks.com/forums...ies2/thumb.gif

Originally Posted by jschira
Exactly. Let's be realistic. Most F250 owners can haul everything that they need to haul in a Ranger. But F250s are not bought by people who need them, they are bought by people who want them.

Let's face it. The public wants "Big Manly Trucks", not "girly" trucks like a Ranger. I describe it as trying to buy what Mother Nature didn't give you. Sorta like Botox, only a little lower.


"That's a very negative, condescending statement directed towards a great number of people you know very little to nothing about"


jschira has it correct.. most people that i see with these trucks are not farmers and don't even own a trailer.. They put after market chips on them and act like their in Nascar..

Sorta like Botox, only a little lower. you hit it right on the HEAD! :)

So I would expect to see something from Toyota in the future. One thing I have noticed is to buy a Ford long bed most all the dealers are stocking only F350 single tires trucks, the F250 are almost all short beds. At least in Nevada, and Arizona that is what I have been seeing. In some cases a reg cab F250 can be found with a long bed. My point is is, it will be interesting to see what Nissan & Toyota do with bed lengths. I'm aware you can order a long bed on a F250, It's just that for what ever reason the dealers seem to order their trucks in this way. If anyone knows why would like to hear the reason.

He was implying that the guys that do not use the trucks to their full potential have a hard time admitting the need something to compensate for lack of you know what.

Well I can't speak for the rest of you guys, but for me it's not compensating it's accessorizing. Just keeping it all large.http://campaigns.ford-trucks.net/for...ons/icon10.gif

How is it you two know so much about people you know nothing about? Judging a book by it's cover?
Anyway, it'll be far more interesting when Toyota enters the US Diesel market, IMHO.... :)