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Carolina Rig 01-27-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by bismic (Post 14001799)
who would want to be the next guinea pig!!??


That's the truth!! I feel like a total chump for ever installing that crap. I ignored the gut feeling telling me it was a bad idea.

Dan

Money-Pit 01-27-2014 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Carolina Rig (Post 14001596)
I posted an earlier response to the Dorman oil cooler question, and my initial response was dead wrong.

THEY ARE F*****G GARBAGE!!

Without going into any details about symptons, here's the 10K mile update:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k7...ps0c25f723.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k7...ps2237065e.jpg

Hope this clears it up for everyone.

Nothing got past the sump screen under the cooler. IPR screen was clean; however oil and coolant mixed.

As a mechanical engineer myself for over 25 years, what's every bit as important as mechanical fitment is material selection. Dorman severely failed in perhaps the most fundamental aspect of the design, and in perhaps the least expensive part of the manufacturing process.

I have the Motorcraft oil cooler in now, along with 8 new motorcraft injectors which I planned to do this winter.

Truck is running great.

There you go Troy....he owned it, touched it, used it....unfortunately he had to touch it again to remove the POS.

BLADE35 01-27-2014 01:41 PM

Iv been Looking for this thread

All I can figure is Dorman didn't understand the Oil Cooler and they thought that particular seal was for Coolant Not Oil

So with Josh Pictures I guess its safe to Assume the symbol on the bottom of the oil cooler is a Dorman Symbol. Someone thought that VR may have had some oil coolers out there was why I wondered

BLADE35 01-27-2014 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by bismic (Post 14001799)

I hear that they have now changed the gasket material, but who would want to be the next guinea pig!!??


I think Anthony has been changing the gaskets to FORD and reusing the Dorman coolers on a few trucks the owners could Not afford a OEM Cooler at that time

I guess will see

at this point the price difference isn't worth the risk

Yahiko 01-27-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Carolina Rig (Post 14001596)
I posted an earlier response to the Dorman oil cooler question, and my initial response was dead wrong.

THEY ARE F*****G GARBAGE!!

Without going into any details about symptons, here's the 10K mile update:



As a mechanical engineer myself for over 25 years, what's every bit as important as mechanical fitment is material selection.
Dorman severely failed in perhaps the most fundamental aspect of the design, and in perhaps the least expensive part of the manufacturing process.

I have the Motorcraft oil cooler in now, along with 8 new motorcraft injectors which I planned to do this winter.

Truck is running great.

That little not so expensive part can take down the whole system.

This has become a very big problem when someone uses the wrong material for a part
to save a few ¢ on a project or is just greedy and subtitles a non approved part for lets
say an aircraft used in the military. That last one did happen. Contractor used a really
cheap seal in place of a very expensive one to supply for helicopter transmissions. It
was not holding up to what it was exposed to.

So what was learned from that? Know your souse and don't buy critical parts from
unknown souses

BTW they busted the contract supplier and now he (at least I hope) he is making big rocks into
little rocks. But sadly most likely he is still selling to government contract jobs.

But back to the main point. A little thing like a 50¢ seal can take out an expensive project.
Think what would of happened had this been a space suit. Or your space suit!


Sean :-drink :-fire

run6.0run 01-28-2014 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by run6.0run (Post 13739169)
That's funny,,, Good luck getting me to put it in. Lol


Oh boy,,, hindsight is a muther huh???

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/...psfaecb6d9.jpg

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/...ps28c085d1.jpg




Ok,, I've actually only reused a dorman cooler on Val n Shannon's truck. The last one I did talk the customer out of reusing it. It's very easy to suggest stuff when it isn't my money,, but I can't give stuff away. Best I can do is educate them as best I can.

Bullitt390 01-28-2014 07:39 AM

Seeing that HPOP reservoir literally made my stomach turn! Damn!

Josh

Carolina Rig 01-28-2014 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Yahiko (Post 14002758)
A little thing like a 50¢ seal can take out an expensive project.
Think what would of happened had this been a space suit. Or your space suit!


Sean :-drink :-fire

It happens. I suppose I'm glad I wasn't trying to get into space:

Morton-Thiokol,1986: An O-ring fault in an MTI SRB http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-51-L in flight. The company is found at fault for the destruction of the Challenger and deaths of the astronauts

Bullitt390 01-28-2014 10:52 AM

The Challenger disaster was more a breakdown in communication than a savings in money

Josh


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