Originally Posted by seventyseven250
(Post 16954274)
Isn't it the heavier axle when you get the 2.7L and the 3.73 locking axles (AKA heavy payload plus towing package)??
You definitely get some kind of transmission cooler, although I couldn't say if it's smaller or different. |
From the Ford website
2.7L V6 EcoBoost® Payload Package $750 The 2.7L V6 EcoBoost® Payload Package is available on F-150 XL and XLT SuperCab and Super Crew®. Includes: • 3.73 Electronic-locking rear-axle • 9.75" gearset • Mechanical Parking Brake Requires 2.7L V6 EcoBoost® engine and Trailer Tow Package. Now, here's what's weird. If you get the payload package on an XL you can load the truck up with options, If you get it on an XLT it forces you to get a base package. Same with a Lariat. That's just silly. Go to Ford Build and Price and try it. BTW, an XL can be loaded up pretty nice. I'm surprised all you can add to one. |
Well, I'd be looking at a supercrew, and they don't sell those in XL, or at least not here in Canada, so XLT is as base as it gets.
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They sell XL SuperCrews here, and a lot of them. Maybe you can option the XLT different up there.
You have an XTR package in Canada, how's that equipped? |
There is only one auxiliary transmission cooler available for the F150. A 3.5L N/A truck with the towing package gets the same cooler that an EcoBoost Max Tow truck gets.
As long as the axle isn't loaded over GAWR I wouldn't worry about it. The 2.7L would do just fine...it has more horsepower and torque than the old 5.4L V8 that was rated to pull 11,000 lbs. |
Originally Posted by JKBrad
(Post 16954408)
They sell XL SuperCrews here, and a lot of them. Maybe you can option the XLT different up there.
You have an XTR package in Canada, how's that equipped? |
Impressive, is what I say about towing with a 2.7L.
I was pulling a tall enclosed snowmobile trailer for my first trailer tow. At 75mph on a windy day the fuel economy tanked (~8mpg, normal ~20) and the truck did not seem to work very hard at it. I don't miss the 7.3L Super Duty at all! |
Towing w/2.7 Capacity?
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I've looked at a boatload of 2.7liters and seems like anytime I do a vin decode they all can only tow 7100 pounds. However looking at this for advertisement, says the 2.7 Ecoboost can do up to 8500.
I like the intown fuel millage and my 29' travel trailer only weighs 3300 pounds so not to concerned about the ability to tow it w/the 2.7 but since I'm looking, I would like to have the most towing capacity I can w/the 2.7. Take a look at this and tell me what everyone thinks. How can I know for sure the towing capacity before I pull the trigger on a truck. Thanks! Lee |
Originally Posted by Mrfun2fly
(Post 17639142)
I've looked at a boatload of 2.7liters and seems like anytime I do a vin decode they all can only tow 7100 pounds. However looking at this for advertisement, says the 2.7 Ecoboost can do up to 8500.
I like the intown fuel millage and my 29' travel trailer only weighs 3300 pounds so not to concerned about the ability to tow it w/the 2.7 but since I'm looking, I would like to have the most towing capacity I can w/the 2.7. Take a look at this and tell me what everyone thinks. How can I know for sure the towing capacity before I pull the trigger on a truck. Thanks! Lee Not sure which VIN decoder you're using, but that's not the best way to determine towing capacity. The official method is with the Ford Towing Guide, which can be found here: https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/..._F150_Sep7.pdf To max out towing capacity it looks like you need 3.73 gears with the EcoBoost Payload Package and 2WD. |
Originally Posted by scottgreer
(Post 16776410)
I have a 2016 F150 2.7L. Standard no frills Sport package with vinyl seats but added remote, power locks, power windows, Bluetooth and factory tow kit.
Truck is rated for 7k, maybe 7500, but I'll only be towing in the 3k-3500 range so I'm at half capacity so no biggie if I'm off a little. My my main question is who is towing this much or more with their 2.7L? Does it struggle? What is fuel mileage like? Also, is the truck doing all the braking? Or does the trailer have brakes? Just looking for some input before buying a small (16-17 foot) travel trailer. |
Originally Posted by Mrfun2fly
(Post 17639142)
I've looked at a boatload of 2.7liters and seems like anytime I do a vin decode they all can only tow 7100 pounds. However looking at this for advertisement, says the 2.7 Ecoboost can do up to 8500.
I like the intown fuel millage and my 29' travel trailer only weighs 3300 pounds so not to concerned about the ability to tow it w/the 2.7 but since I'm looking, I would like to have the most towing capacity I can w/the 2.7. Take a look at this and tell me what everyone thinks. How can I know for sure the towing capacity before I pull the trigger on a truck. Thanks! Lee |
Originally Posted by Tom
(Post 17639225)
Hey Lee,
Not sure which VIN decoder you're using, but that's not the best way to determine towing capacity. The official method is with the Ford Towing Guide, which can be found here: https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/..._F150_Sep7.pdf To max out towing capacity it looks like you need 3.73 gears with the EcoBoost Payload Package and 2WD. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/vindecoder.php The thing is, I almost bought one of the 1500 Rams 3.0 that bet 27mph but after reading about them having engine issues I turned my eyes onto the 2.7 and 3.5 Fords. My 29' travel trailer weighs 3300 pounds dry and about 4000 loaded. Currently I'm pulling my trailer w/my Toyota 4runner w/a 4lit, pulls pretty good to, no problem doing 70. I would like to get a bigger truck for the room but the gas millage most get is pretty disturbing and I need it to be my daily driver. Seems like the 2.7 will do the job just fine, but I'm wondering about the life span on such a little motor pushing so much torque and power. Any thoughts on my concerns or opinions??? Thanks! Lee |
Originally Posted by Mrfun2fly
(Post 17642045)
I would like to get a bigger truck for the room but the gas millage most get is pretty disturbing and I need it to be my daily driver. Seems like the 2.7 will do the job just fine, but I'm wondering about the life span on such a little motor pushing so much torque and power.
Any thoughts on my concerns or opinions??? Thanks! Lee There are lots of components to towing capacity, and engine load is only one of them. That's why trucks with the payload package have a higher towing capacity with equivalent gears; you have more room for tongue weight. The engine will never notice the difference, though. I've had as much as 15,000 lbs behind my '13 EB F150 and wasn't worried, and some around here routinely tow heavy with theirs. Think of how many thousands of people use their '15+ 2.7L trucks to tow trailers with. If they were blowing up because they couldn't handle the stress I think it would be a known thing by this point. |
Originally Posted by Mrfun2fly
(Post 17642045)
I've been using this decoder
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/vindecoder.php The thing is, I almost bought one of the 1500 Rams 3.0 that bet 27mph but after reading about them having engine issues I turned my eyes onto the 2.7 and 3.5 Fords. My 29' travel trailer weighs 3300 pounds dry and about 4000 loaded. Currently I'm pulling my trailer w/my Toyota 4runner w/a 4lit, pulls pretty good to, no problem doing 70. I would like to get a bigger truck for the room but the gas millage most get is pretty disturbing and I need it to be my daily driver. Seems like the 2.7 will do the job just fine, but I'm wondering about the life span on such a little motor pushing so much torque and power. Any thoughts on my concerns or opinions??? Thanks! Lee The 2.7 should be fine, they had some issues at the get go with defects but they were resolved. If we would have stayed with a smaller trailer i would have loved one for the better unloaded mileage. |
Originally Posted by Tom
(Post 17642248)
The 2.7L EB has only been around for three years, but small-displacement turbo engines used for towing isn't that new. The 3.5L EB has been doing it since 2010, and it's proven itself quite well over time with how well it's held up to towing use. I don't see a reason why the 2.7L would be any different.
Think of how many thousands of people use their '15+ 2.7L trucks to tow trailers with. If they were blowing up because they couldn't handle the stress I think it would be a known thing by this point. I'm guessing the 3.5 is going to have a little more gusty but along w/that the fuel millage goes down a little. Currently I'm getting 8-10mph w/my 4runner pulling my travel trailer but only 15-16 in town w/out my trailer. The advertisements say one thing about millage but want to know what reality is. What king of gas millage are you guys getting w/your 2.7 and w/your 3.5's? Please tell me but also include your engine details including transmisson speed (6 or 10). Also, is it true, all 2017 F150's have a tranny cooler now? Thanks again! Lee |
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