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Old May 10, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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Visible Differences between a 390 and 460?

Please take it easy on me as I'm new to the old truck scene.

Just bought a new (old) truck, a '76 F-250 Camper Special. It was advertised as a 460, but the VIN suggests a 390. Not sure if the engine has been swapped out in the past -- are there any telltale visual marks that will tell me which is true?

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Old May 10, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Look and see if the intake manifold extends under the valve covers if so it would be in the FE family=390.
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Old May 10, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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The 390 will have the Exhaust manifold bolts top and bottom of the port, 460 should be staggered on the sides.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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If you post Pictures We could mot likely tell you what it is!
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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5 valve cover bolts= FE, 6 valve cover bolts= SB ford 302/351w 7 valve cover bolts= 429/460 8 valve cover bolts= 351C/M 400
Hope this helps!
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Thanks for the help thus far. Here are some photos -- I believe it's a 390, but let me know what you think...









Thanks again for the help. Looking forward to getting this truck ready to be a daily driver by the end of the year.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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well the orientation of the plugs says fe, though im not sure if 460s are like that too.

count the valve cover bolts. then measure the stroke 390=3.75" 360=3.50"
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Drac
The 390 will have the Exhaust manifold bolts top and bottom of the port, 460 should be staggered on the sides.
according to this and the evidence in the photos, you have an Fe.
that doesnt nessisarily mean you have 390. all fe blocks were marked the same wether they were a 352 or a 428. the only way to tell for sure is to measure the stroke.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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I agree it looks like an FE. The second pic down shows a parting line between the intake and head under the valve cover gasket. (The valve cover seals on both the head and intake.)

I too have heard there is no visible difference in the 360 & 390 & other FE's, other than stroke.

Does any know if you can measure the stroke through the spark plug hole?

Also btw , the 460 has a flat/straight spot across the top two trany bolt holes (aprox 8" apart), the FE's will have a round (circular pattern)
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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yes, you can measure the stroke through the plug hole. i highly reccomend not doing this by your self, it will save you some colorful language.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Thanks guys. I consider this pretty much settled.

The VIN code designates a 390 and the seller was pretty confident that the engine was original.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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you can always drop the oil pan and get the code off of that to be a 100% sure
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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It's an FE with points.

The engine bay needs some elbow grease.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermafenser
It's an FE with points.

The engine bay needs some elbow grease.
I agree it looks like an FE, but if it has points, why is there a Duraspark electronic ignition module on the DS fender?


76 trucks with FEs did have electronic ignition.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 76supercab2
I agree it looks like an FE, but if it has points, why is there a Duraspark electronic ignition module on the DS fender?


76 trucks with FEs did have electronic ignition.
Good catch -- I did not see that.

The '76 MY had electronic ignition on all trucks.

I guess one of the owners got fed up with Duraspark and threw on the points.
 
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