towing and tuners
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towing and tuners
I just bought a 01 V-10 for hunting, hauling, and an over all "DO IT" truck.
I come from a LONG use of Powerstroke and diesels in general, and I know it will never tow like that, BUT
I have been doing a lot of reading and searching and can not really tell who is telling there opinion and who is really running a tuner
Is there any one towing regularly and running a tuner or for that fact any other power adder that truly worked?<O
I am trying to make this truck the best it can be, which it may be already, I just would like to here from some people that have been there done that already type thing.<O
I come from a LONG use of Powerstroke and diesels in general, and I know it will never tow like that, BUT
I have been doing a lot of reading and searching and can not really tell who is telling there opinion and who is really running a tuner
Is there any one towing regularly and running a tuner or for that fact any other power adder that truly worked?<O
I am trying to make this truck the best it can be, which it may be already, I just would like to here from some people that have been there done that already type thing.<O
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I run an 01 with a tuner (Superchips Microtuner) all the time. I have learned you need to run on 87 octane unless you like to find and buy the high priced fuel. The 91 octane programming will make it ping if you use 90 octane in it (duh). Another nice feature to have is upping the rpm of your shift points and increasing your shift pressures. Does it increase mileage or hp? I don't know. I have no way of testing that for sure. It takes a while to reprogram and you have to pull the fuel pump fuse under the hood. My 95 diesel was just plug programmer in and go to work.
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Thanks for the reply.
Have you towed with out the Superchip and the towed with it loaded.
I still have all my diesel's for the heavy haul so this would not be the primary truck for towing.
I just want to try and find out if it is worth it or not.
Have you towed with out the Superchip and the towed with it loaded.
I still have all my diesel's for the heavy haul so this would not be the primary truck for towing.
I just want to try and find out if it is worth it or not.
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I have towed without the chip and towed with it loaded. I can't tell you if it is worth the money or not because I didn't stop and reprogram in the sme trip to check the difference. Personally, I don't think I would pay full retail for one and expect to get any money back in savings. Like I said, the most obvious differences are higher shift points if you hold your foot down hard and firmer shifts plus you can erase your high speed cut out which once in a while is kinda nice.
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i have to dito the men above. i have and use a xcal2 from motor heaven and find my 05 tows just as well with the dead stock tune as it does with the tune installed. my mpgs are the same, the best come with the stock tune.
when i drop my 11k boat/tri axle trailer combo on the hitch it just pulls it great that is enough for me.
when i drop my 11k boat/tri axle trailer combo on the hitch it just pulls it great that is enough for me.
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I have a SuperChip tuner, but I haven't towed with my X yet. I can say from experience with my F150 5.4, that it made a differerence towing. You'll never get a "return" on the tuner - at best, you may get a mile or two more per gal, but don't really expect it. the biggest benefit is the ability to adjust the shift points and pressures - it can really make a difference when it drops a gear to climb a hill. I noticed with my F150, that the tranny came back up in to drive much sonner than before the programming.
I have a trip comming up next weekend - since I haven't towed with the X before, I won't have a valid comparrision, but I'll let you know how it goes. My TT weighs in at ~6300 lbs.
I have a trip comming up next weekend - since I haven't towed with the X before, I won't have a valid comparrision, but I'll let you know how it goes. My TT weighs in at ~6300 lbs.
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What's the BEST overall torque adder?
Gears.
If you have 3.73 gears, and go to 4.30's, that's a 15% improvement in torque to the ground.
You can't get that with a tuner. You can't get that any other way than re-gearing.
As I've stated quite a few times here before. You can put more torque to the ground than a diesel by downshifting (and getting more torque multiplication) and running higher RPMs than any diesel could do unchipped. Putting 4.30's in it will help even more.
What gears does the truck have now? And what size (diameter) tires?
Gears.
If you have 3.73 gears, and go to 4.30's, that's a 15% improvement in torque to the ground.
You can't get that with a tuner. You can't get that any other way than re-gearing.
As I've stated quite a few times here before. You can put more torque to the ground than a diesel by downshifting (and getting more torque multiplication) and running higher RPMs than any diesel could do unchipped. Putting 4.30's in it will help even more.
What gears does the truck have now? And what size (diameter) tires?
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Ken my bet is the 01 V10 has 4R110 and 3.73:1 and your advice is the best there can be ..... re gear to 4.30:1 and the truck will pull just as good as most stock PSDs
Cost a little more then a "tuner" but bang for the buck ends up higher
Cost a little more then a "tuner" but bang for the buck ends up higher
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Ken Art / Art Ken ...what da diff...sheesh
Ok! Ok!
I am sorry I just got done answering a Monsta question and called Art Ken... beat me already
What you mean grass skirt wearing X driver???..
I thought I was the only cross dressing homophobe truk nutz draging forum queen in your life
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I am sorry I just got done answering a Monsta question and called Art Ken... beat me already
What you mean grass skirt wearing X driver???..
I thought I was the only cross dressing homophobe truk nutz draging forum queen in your life
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New to this board as of today!!
Just last week I traded my 01 V-10 for an 04 V-10. I have surprised many diesel guys when towing my 11,500lb. boat and trailer up hills.
As stated on another thread, I think the key is to keep the revs up. And I get as much as 15mpg on the hiway with mine, too.
By the way, both trucks are 4X4 SC SB.
After reading this and a few other threads, I am now wondering if some minor mods will help me much. I was planning on a tuner, headers, opening up the exhaust, and a good intake filter. Am I wasting my money?
I don't need the hp/torque anytime other than pulling my boat in the summertime.
On another thread, someone said that a V-10 actually runs better with a bit of exhaust restriction, but that's contrary to everything I've known for a n/a engine. Every time I look at the Y-pipe, I see the exhaust choked down trememdously. Why did Ford do this?
Just last week I traded my 01 V-10 for an 04 V-10. I have surprised many diesel guys when towing my 11,500lb. boat and trailer up hills.
As stated on another thread, I think the key is to keep the revs up. And I get as much as 15mpg on the hiway with mine, too.
By the way, both trucks are 4X4 SC SB.
After reading this and a few other threads, I am now wondering if some minor mods will help me much. I was planning on a tuner, headers, opening up the exhaust, and a good intake filter. Am I wasting my money?
I don't need the hp/torque anytime other than pulling my boat in the summertime.
On another thread, someone said that a V-10 actually runs better with a bit of exhaust restriction, but that's contrary to everything I've known for a n/a engine. Every time I look at the Y-pipe, I see the exhaust choked down trememdously. Why did Ford do this?
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One thing to remember about the "choked down sections" of the V10 y-pipe, is that the reduction doesn't run very long, maybe 1.5 inches.
It's overall effect on backpressure isn't much. What it does do is speed up the exhaust charge considerably at that point.
At least for the passenger-side bank, scavenging has to be doing something in that restricted Y-pipe. Exhaust pulse coming from driver's side goes through restriction aimed directly at the outlet of the Y. It passes the passenger side restriction creating a vacuum in the passenger side. Because the restriction speeds up the driver's side exhaust pulse, it creates more vacuum for the passenger side. Pulling the passenger side exhaust pulse with it.
Bernoulli's law, the faster the gas flow past the passenger-side restriction, the more vacuum created.
So that restriction does do SOMETHING. Whether or not it's measurable by the seat of your pants, well... that's another discussion entirely
It's overall effect on backpressure isn't much. What it does do is speed up the exhaust charge considerably at that point.
At least for the passenger-side bank, scavenging has to be doing something in that restricted Y-pipe. Exhaust pulse coming from driver's side goes through restriction aimed directly at the outlet of the Y. It passes the passenger side restriction creating a vacuum in the passenger side. Because the restriction speeds up the driver's side exhaust pulse, it creates more vacuum for the passenger side. Pulling the passenger side exhaust pulse with it.
Bernoulli's law, the faster the gas flow past the passenger-side restriction, the more vacuum created.
So that restriction does do SOMETHING. Whether or not it's measurable by the seat of your pants, well... that's another discussion entirely
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Ken my bet is the 01 V10 has 4R110 and 3.73:1 and your advice is the best there can be ..... re gear to 4.30:1 and the truck will pull just as good as most stock PSDs