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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 10:22 PM
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63 F-100 Transmission

Hi, I have a 1963 F-100 stepside with a 292 Y-block, and a 3 on tree converted to floor. Almost everytime I shift into a gear, even from a stop, the gears will grind. What causes this, low oil? If so, how do I check and refill? Thank you!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 12:57 AM
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Shop manual? These typically have all the information a Ford service mechanic would need. Not sure why anyone these days would need anything less?? It's not like the information in there is no longer pertinent. Have you tried that? Seriously, I for one get tired of being the service manual for everyone. ND is retired. Time for everyone to figure out what was written in 1963 - even if you don't want to... Lol.

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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 08:08 AM
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Shop manual? These typically have all the information a Ford service mechanic would need. Not sure why anyone these days would need anything less?? It's not like the information in there is no longer pertinent. Have you tried that? Seriously, I for one get tired of being the service manual for everyone. ND is retired. Time for everyone to figure out what was written in 1963 - even if you don't want to... Lol.

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Well, my problem is that there is no store near me that sells one, and I do not have a bank account to buy something online and my parents don't want me to have one. So right now I'm asking for the help of the community until I can do so. All I have is cash from mowing neighbors lawns just to be able to fix my truck. Also, would a shop manual even tell me why my gears are grinding? Thank you!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 08:26 AM
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A lot of us on here are adults. You might want to check with your parents that they want you posting on here as well. If they don't want you to have a Shop Manual they might not want you posting and talking with adults online that you've never met...

Yes, the 1961 Shop Manual covers the 1963 year of trucks, too. 3-speed transmission starts on page 5-10 of section 5.

Here's a picture of what it looks like - the left hand page here is the troubleshooting guide - the problem with trying to cite the written word is they in turn refer to other sections for specific procedures. Just a Shop ton of info in there.

 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 08:41 AM
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A lot of us on here are adults. You might want to check with your parents that they want you posting on here as well. If they don't want you to have a Shop Manual they might not want you posting and talking with adults online that you've never met...

Yes, the 1961 Shop Manual covers the 1963 year of trucks, too. 3-speed transmission starts on page 5-10 of section 5.

Here's a picture of what it looks like - the left hand page here is the troubleshooting guide - the problem with trying to cite the written word is they in turn refer to other sections for specific procedures. Just a Shop ton of info in there.

May parents are okay with me being on here, I'm 17 and only 2 months away from 18 and starting college (TAMU) in 2 weeks. But im not going to let college stop my project or slow it down any.

Do you know of any store I could go into, ask them for the book, they order it, and when it arrives I pay for it? Kind of like how autozone does when they dont have the part at their store but have it at another?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 09:03 AM
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The factory shop manuals were printed back in the day. They are not a current publication. Do you know of a store you can walk into and buy one? Sounds like you could use the info in there. I buy mine online but I have a bank account and a card I can use. If your folks don't want you having one though I guess you are stuck good.

 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 09:26 AM
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Adjust your clutch linkage. If that don't work it may be time for a new clutch.

These old trucks are pretty simple to maintain. Keep at it!

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Originally Posted by ZebJones
Hi, I have a 1963 F-100 stepside with a 292 Y-block, and a 3 on tree converted to floor. Almost everytime I shift into a gear, even from a stop, the gears will grind. What causes this, low oil? If so, how do I check and refill? Thank you!
There should be a fill hole on the side of the transmission, passenger side I think. Should be filled almost up to the hole. Make sure you use gear oil, NOT transmission fluid. 75-90w should be good.

Grinding can be caused by the clutch being out of adjustment or possibly your synchros going bad.

It would be ideal to have a shop manual to trouble shoot, but you should be able to find something on the inter-webs to get you close. You would have better luck finding one at a yard sale or swap meet than getting one from autozone/oreilly type store. Rock auto sells them on paper and DVD if your parents would order for you. I used to have them in PDF, I will check and see if I can find them for you.

Check out the Slick60s website as well. Theres some good info on there and those folks are typically pretty friendly and knowledgable.
 
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There should be a fill hole on the side of the transmission, passenger side I think. Should be filled almost up to the hole. Make sure you use gear oil, NOT transmission fluid. 75-90w should be good.

Grinding can be caused by the clutch being out of adjustment or possibly your synchros going bad.

It would be ideal to have a shop manual to trouble shoot, but you should be able to find something on the inter-webs to get you close. You would have better luck finding one at a yard sale or swap meet than getting one from autozone/oreilly type store. Rock auto sells them on paper and DVD if your parents would order for you. I used to have them in PDF, I will check and see if I can find them for you.

Check out the Slick60s website as well. Theres some good info on there and those folks are typically pretty friendly and knowledgable.
Thank you so much for the help, I'll check the level and I'll check them out too I never heard of them, you are great! I'll check out a swap meet if I can find one and thank you even if you can or can not find it! 😊😁
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 10:09 AM
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ZebJones,

Adjust your clutch linkage. If that don't work it may be time for a new clutch.

These old trucks are pretty simple to maintain. Keep at it!

Jason
Thanks, I'll check that out too! I love old trucks, just getting into them.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 10:22 AM
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My oil is low in the transmission, should I just fill it up to top, or would it be wise to replace it all?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 10:29 AM
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If you have to go to the trouble of crawling down there, I'd replace it all.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 10:53 AM
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Replacing the oil couldn't hurt if you don't know the maintenance history of the vehicle.

What's the point of having a forum if we aren't here to help each other? Pretty surprising attitude towards somebody trying to break into a hobby. If you can't be bothered just don't post.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 11:14 AM
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My bad. Everybody and their Mother up here I know of is dying off - surprisingly not COVID related. Anyway, I had a crap night of sleep last night - scored a 46 on the SleepIQ so I'm dogged out today. I should avoid posting anything on these types of days since it can cause a bit of an attitude problem getting almost no sleep. Sorry. Drive on guys. I'll hibernate for today.

 
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 11:43 AM
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Check your clutch for proper adjustment. Make sure the pedal is returning easily to the completely up position when you take your foot off it. If not, you need to examine the spring, lubricate, or repair the Z-bar and clutch linkage. Between the z-bar and the clutch fork that goes into the bellhousing, you'll find an adjusting rod. That adjuster can be lengthened or shortened. It is correctly adjusted when you press the clutch pedal and about 3/4" down, you feel resistance associated with the lever contacting the throwout bearing inside the bellhousing to the clutch fingers. Lengthen or shorten as needed to get to this result.

Then, do an online search for transmissions and find the make and style you have. Your '63 F100 likely has a transmission with a non synchronized 1st gear. Clash will be normal if your technique is inexpert, which we're all subject to being slightly careless.

When shifting into first gear when your truck is at complete stop. first press in the clutch pedal and lift the shift lever up into 2nd gear. This stops the internal rotating mass of the transmission. Then with the clutch pedal still pressed to the floor, bring it down to neutral and then into 1st gear. This will eliminate what's called gear clash, or the grinding of the transmission gears that you hear. If your synchronizer for 2nd gear is worn, you'll hear grinding when going into second. If you're unable to have the transmission rebuilt soon, simply become proficient at double clutching. With this technique you clutch once to get the transmission into neutral, then clutch again to shift into the next gear. With slight throttle blips while shifting, you'll become adept at shifting like a real trucker used to shift back in the days before transmissions were equipped with synchronizers.

Hope this helps. Keep us posted on your progress and don't let us grouchy old farts turn you off your nifty pickup and driving it!
 
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