Zf5- weird grinding gears
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Zf5- weird grinding gears
Hey guys. My trans has been doing this since i got it. At 1st i thought it was just me not knowing how to shift but the problem hasnt improved.
On the shift from first to second, i get a loud grinding sound that vibrates the stick, like it doesnt want to go into gear. At idle it goes in fine and downsifts into first just fine. It also seems to be intermittant. Sometimes it does it and others it shifts just fine, same rpms, i shift the same way. Any ideas??
I took a video of it last night but i have to upload it from my computer when i get hone.
On the shift from first to second, i get a loud grinding sound that vibrates the stick, like it doesnt want to go into gear. At idle it goes in fine and downsifts into first just fine. It also seems to be intermittant. Sometimes it does it and others it shifts just fine, same rpms, i shift the same way. Any ideas??
I took a video of it last night but i have to upload it from my computer when i get hone.
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They are pretty spendy. I would guess around $1,000 if a shop did it for you. Im just waiting for some money to buy a Zf5 rebuild kit and Valair clutch. My father in-law is gonna help me rebuild mine.
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The parts aren't that expensive. The labor is 
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Are you sure you're fully disengaging the clutch? Are you putting the pedal RIGHT to the floor?
I seem to hear a little gear rollover noise in the video; is this a replacement clutch with a single-mass flywheel? We have them on both my wife's trucks, and they both seem more "picky" about the 1-2 shift than the old clutch/flywheel. Really needs the (clutch) pedal to the metal.
How's the tranny fluid level? What fluid are you running? How long has it been in there?
.Are you sure you're fully disengaging the clutch? Are you putting the pedal RIGHT to the floor?
I seem to hear a little gear rollover noise in the video; is this a replacement clutch with a single-mass flywheel? We have them on both my wife's trucks, and they both seem more "picky" about the 1-2 shift than the old clutch/flywheel. Really needs the (clutch) pedal to the metal.
How's the tranny fluid level? What fluid are you running? How long has it been in there?
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The parts aren't that expensive. The labor is .
Are you sure you're fully disengaging the clutch? Are you putting the pedal RIGHT to the floor?
I seem to hear a little gear rollover noise in the video; is this a replacement clutch with a single-mass flywheel? We have them on both my wife's trucks, and they both seem more "picky" about the 1-2 shift than the old clutch/flywheel. Really needs the (clutch) pedal to the metal.
How's the tranny fluid level? What fluid are you running? How long has it been in there?
.Are you sure you're fully disengaging the clutch? Are you putting the pedal RIGHT to the floor?
I seem to hear a little gear rollover noise in the video; is this a replacement clutch with a single-mass flywheel? We have them on both my wife's trucks, and they both seem more "picky" about the 1-2 shift than the old clutch/flywheel. Really needs the (clutch) pedal to the metal.
How's the tranny fluid level? What fluid are you running? How long has it been in there?
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So since atf is so thin... would the trany be pissed off if you just used 80-90w gear oil? I just got a ZF5 for my truck and thats what I run in all my Jeep tranys... I have read about the ATF in a few posts and was planning on using but am curious why?
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It's not just about the viscosity. Different trannies use different materials in their synchronizers, and require different types of fluid to protect them. I don't know what types of synchros in what trannies require what fluids specifically, but I do know that that's the research you have to do in order to select the right one.
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Well, i tried stomping on the clutch, all the way to the floor. No improvement. I found that if i make the shift fast, as in make the throw from 1st to 2nd fast it barely does it, but its still there. Changing the fluids this weekend. And brand of ATF yall can reccomend ?
