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Old 07-28-2011, 01:11 AM
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Chuck, that thing looks great! I like the shifter setup, the more the merrier! My rig currently has the same parking brake lever, and the stock 4spd shifter. It needs a few more, a brownie at least!

Your the first guy I've heard of that has managed to shoehorn a brownie in with his 4 wheel drive, but then again you have a a lot more wheelbase to work with. I like it! You've done a lot to that rig, and it shows! What engine is in it?A flathead?

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Chuck, that thing looks great! I like the shifter setup, the more the merrier! My rig currently has the same parking brake lever, and the stock 4spd shifter. It needs a few more, a brownie at least!

Your the first guy I've heard of that has managed to shoehorn a brownie in with his 4 wheel drive, but then again you have a a lot more wheelbase to work with. I like it! You've done a lot to that rig, and it shows! What engine is in it?A flathead?

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It was no easy task to fit the 5831 brownie in there. My first revision had it mounted back further, with a coupling shaft in front of it, and behind it. The problem was that the front driveshaft runs down the center of the truck, and touched the bottom of the 5831. So, I made an indexing spacer, and coupled the transmission output flange to the auxiliary input flange. This arrangement moved the 5831 forward and upward. Now I could lower the transfer case an inch or so, because I have the room between it and the 5831 for a driveshaft with 2 u-joints. I made that out of 4 square end flanges (the ones that go on an emergency brake drum), with a machined spacer block bolted between them.
This is the first Big Job I own that I actually put on the road. The 337 flathead is awesome! On a 90 day, the temperature gauge barely reaches the mid point, and it makes power to spare. I find myself barely pushing the gas pedal to make it go, and a little more to pull a hill. You don't even have to downshift on small hills! Compared to my '50 F-6 COE tractor, the F-7 kicks ***! I figured pound for pound, they would have about equal power to weight ratios. I guess not! The COE drives nice, but you have to watch the temperature, and plan for hills, shift the 2 speed and the brownie, floor it, etc.
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I think I see now why no-one else has done it, that sounds like a lot of work! But the result sounds like it came out real nice.

Interesting how the differential is at the center of the front axle, it looks almost like Coleman took a regular rear axle and added steering gear to it.

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Chuck sent some of us pics and youtubes of the Coleman out off-roading. It didn't disappoint. Here's his comments, the pics, and videos. Stu

Hey all,
I finally got to take the '50 F-7 off road, to test the four wheel drive out, so I thought I would share some pictures and video!
It's hard to tell from the pictures, but trust me, that hill is steep! A 2 wheel drive anything could not drive up it.
The last shot should give you an idea of how tall the truck is. It's parked next to my '77 F-250 High Boy (4" lift, 37" tires). The F-7 dwarfs it!
The truck performs perfectly. I climbed the hill with the transfer case in low, auxiliary in underdrive, and main trans in 2cnd. Barely gave it gas, and it walked right up. Never spun a tire. And on the highway, with both transmissions in O/D, 65 MPH is very comfortable.
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Wow! Great to see him using it as intended! That big flattie sounds as good as any engine on earth!
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F-7 COLEMAN GETS A BODY!

Well, sorta. I Photoshopped the Holmes 650 body on it that I'm still looking for. I also "painted" it, and I designed a new door logo. It's not perfect, but not bad for a beginner? Now if I could just figure out how to put the white Coleman decal on the hood! (There is a copy of it in my album, if anybody wants to try. BobJ?). I was thinking of having shirts made with this truck on the back.
Now I just need to find a real Holmes 650 body. They were made from 1950 through the early 1960's. Somebody must know where one is hiding. Any leads?
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This is the best I could do with the small image:



I tried to position it like in the Coleman ad:



If you have a larger image of your truck send it to me and I'll try to do a better job with the Coleman logo.
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There's a wrecker that looks similar on a late 60's early 70's Ford that's been sitting for a number of years in Superior, WI. I've been meaning to take a closer look at it, rather than the 100 yard stare every time I drive by. There's another one up the road from me on a 60's Ford sitting in a farm field. I could take a look at that one too. There'd definitely be a roadtrip involved if it's what you are looking for, though.
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Chuck,

Did you ever check out this truck that was floating around WI a few years back?



We talked about it some time ago. It was a really nice truck, it was bouncing around and I took a close look at it when I drove past it one day. The price started at I think, $18K, the last time I saw it advertised I think it was around $10K. It's been some time since I've seen it on the net.
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Scott, have you seen the beast of truck that shows up at the Dash for the Dells show? That's a beast.

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I remember seeing that one, Bob. I think it had more of a crowd than some of the trailer queen looking ones.
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There's a wrecker that looks similar on a late 60's early 70's Ford that's been sitting for a number of years in Superior, WI. I've been meaning to take a closer look at it, rather than the 100 yard stare every time I drive by. There's another one up the road from me on a 60's Ford sitting in a farm field. I could take a look at that one too. There'd definitely be a roadtrip involved if it's what you are looking for, though.
Please check them out when you get a chance. The tag with the model on it is usually on the right side of the tower. It would be worth going after it, if it was the correct one, in nice shape. I have been looking for a long time now.
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Chuck,

Did you ever check out this truck that was floating around WI a few years back?



We talked about it some time ago. It was a really nice truck, it was bouncing around and I took a close look at it when I drove past it one day. The price started at I think, $18K, the last time I saw it advertised I think it was around $10K. It's been some time since I've seen it on the net.
Yeah, I checked this one out. It was way to expensive at the time, and really wasn't what I wanted. A towing company finally bought it, and painted it 2 tone blue/white.
I have high res pictures of my truck, and the Coleman logo. I'll email them to you.
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I had a chance at this one at an auction some years ago, it's not a 4X4 but it was complete down to the two way radio inside, taking up all leg room on the passenger's side. It had the original engine and it turned over by hand. I was outbid by a guy who owned a junkyard, he got it for $200. I was broke at the time and couldn't really afford it. There were only two people bidding, me and the other guy. I like to think it was for the better that I didn't win, I don't think my wife would have been too happy then, or even now:



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The black one is cool, but I really like the 650 body better. That truck has a W-45 body, which was replaced by the 650 in 1950. The 650 has a bunch of nicer features, and I like the flat sides. The tower is a lot neater looking as well.
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