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Old 09-17-2010, 12:33 PM
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stupid motor mounts require a tiny oil filter???

I have a '77 with a 400, and this is not the stock engine. The truck would have come with a 351M, as I understand it, and I was pretty sure the motor mounts were identical.

I want to use the deepest oil filter possible, but even the stock 1515 (Napa) doesn't fit! I have to use a little short thing to clear the motor mount.

Can somebody tell me if these are mounts for a 360, or if I'm missing something?






the passenger side, so you can see the mounts clearly


 
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You can get adapter plates that let you relocate the filter to any place you want with hoses. I think they also make angled adapters. The smaller filter is probably not a big deal. Filters never fill up or stop up unless something is really wrong with the engine and there is a bypass just in case it does. Run a filter your normal oil change and then cut it open and see how much crap is in there. You will usually find a few paint chips and a few metal particles.

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Get one of those remote adapters and run a 1995 filter that holds half what your pan holds.

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Something isn't right here, 351m and a 400 are the same size block. There is a difference in car vs truck motor mounts that bolt to the engine. They put the engine to far forward or back, I don't remember which direction. I ran into this trying to use mounts that bolt to the engine from a 400 car block. I used the mounts from the 4x4 and spacing was fine.
 
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Originally Posted by perryg114
You can get adapter plates that let you relocate the filter to any place you want with hoses. I think they also make angled adapters. The smaller filter is probably not a big deal. Filters never fill up or stop up unless something is really wrong with the engine and there is a bypass just in case it does. Run a filter your normal oil change and then cut it open and see how much crap is in there. You will usually find a few paint chips and a few metal particles.

Search Results for oil filter adapters - SummitRacing.com

Get one of those remote adapters and run a 1995 filter that holds half what your pan holds.

Perry
that's what I was planning on, both for a deeper filter and ease of changing oil, ease of cleanup.

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Something isn't right here, 351m and a 400 are the same size block. There is a difference in car vs truck motor mounts that bolt to the engine. They put the engine to far forward or back, I don't remember which direction. I ran into this trying to use mounts that bolt to the engine from a 400 car block. I used the mounts from the 4x4 and spacing was fine.
car mounts sounds like that could be it. Didn't think of that. I knew the 400 was a stroked Mblock, and I was pretty sure the mounts are different than any other ford motors.

I've been trying to find pictures of the 4x4 mounts to compare them to any other possibilities, and I'm coming up almost blank. Do you have pics of your mounts for me to compare?


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here's a mount that looks completely different....

Ford 351C, 351M, 400M Rubber Motor Mounts
 
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Bobwires, I don't have any pics, but the only difference that I could physically tell when I had the issue is, that the stud that goes through the motor mount in the frame is offset on the car mounts which change the position of the block. The mount that is already on the frame is fine, just the stud on the ones that bolt to the block are positioned different. Your right, the ones in the link you posted are different, I have not seen that type. They look more like Chevy mounts to me.
 
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