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BW T85, and some others:
Borg Warner T-85N Overdrive Wiring Page
Numberdummy has lots of specifics on those.
The 4 speeds in those cars were performance 4 speeds, either the BW T10 or Ford T&C "TopLoader". Both are 1:1 4th gear. First is 2.78 or 2.32, not so truck-like.
Remanufactured Toploaders
There is a 4 speed OD based on those transmissions, but they are weak in the OD gear and the aluminum cased ones are weaker still.
Toploader Imposters
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Nice..a AOD is very Nice..Just Very expensive unless you rebuild your own trans. $850.00 for the adapter ++++ 1300-1800 for a AOD to handle the Big Block torque and weight of a truck
But very nice
1952
But very nice
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[quote=lonnie1952;9344655]Nice..a AOD is very Nice..Just Very expensive unless you rebuild your own trans. $850.00 for the adapter ++++ 1300-1800 for a AOD to handle the Big Block torque and weight of a truck
if i went the AT route, it wil not be an AOD. I would probably go 4r70w. But i will look into them more when i have some time. i may go with a deisel trans, not sure yet
But very nice
if i went the AT route, it wil not be an AOD. I would probably go 4r70w. But i will look into them more when i have some time. i may go with a deisel trans, not sure yet
But very nice
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The trouble with any of those is they won't bolt up to your block. The AOD has an adapter that I suppose would work with a 4R70W, but that trans is electronically controlled.
The trick is to put AODE and 4R70W parts in an AOD, which is explained in part at this site. They also show the adapters about halfway down the page.
AOD Transmission from PATC, AOD Transmissions
This is an expensive answer to your issue. Depending on miles driven, it could take decades to pay off.....
The trick is to put AODE and 4R70W parts in an AOD, which is explained in part at this site. They also show the adapters about halfway down the page.
AOD Transmission from PATC, AOD Transmissions
This is an expensive answer to your issue. Depending on miles driven, it could take decades to pay off.....
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Sorry for late post.
I saw Clark mentioned earlier. That is what I went with on my 352. I got a Clark 265 out of a 1966 Ford B700 (School Bus) It had a 330 in it as well. I took the bellhousing, and flywheel along with the starter and bought a new Clutch disc, flywheel, pilot bearing, and throwout bearing for the School bus application at Napa and it all bolted up to my 352. *Note: The 352 has the same crank as the 330 M/D
Another Note: The bellhousing was cast with two mounts and the trans with none. So In some cases you might have to go with a single forward engine mount and not two side mounts. I don't know if your truck is set up this way or not. But just a heads up.
Yet Another Note: There are a few different Clark Transmissions (Patterns are out of a 66 Ford Large truck Manual.)
4 spd shift pattern.
1 3
|-|-|
2 4 R
5 Speed Direct
2 4 R
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3 5 1
5 Spd OD
2 OD R
|- | -|
3 4 1
There are also a few different models of Clarks. I got the 265 There are a few variants of it but the one you want is the 285. Lots better parts availability.
That's the limit of my knowledge on Clarks.
I saw Clark mentioned earlier. That is what I went with on my 352. I got a Clark 265 out of a 1966 Ford B700 (School Bus) It had a 330 in it as well. I took the bellhousing, and flywheel along with the starter and bought a new Clutch disc, flywheel, pilot bearing, and throwout bearing for the School bus application at Napa and it all bolted up to my 352. *Note: The 352 has the same crank as the 330 M/D
Another Note: The bellhousing was cast with two mounts and the trans with none. So In some cases you might have to go with a single forward engine mount and not two side mounts. I don't know if your truck is set up this way or not. But just a heads up.
Yet Another Note: There are a few different Clark Transmissions (Patterns are out of a 66 Ford Large truck Manual.)
4 spd shift pattern.
1 3
|-|-|
2 4 R
5 Speed Direct
2 4 R
|-|-|
3 5 1
5 Spd OD
2 OD R
|- | -|
3 4 1
There are also a few different models of Clarks. I got the 265 There are a few variants of it but the one you want is the 285. Lots better parts availability.
That's the limit of my knowledge on Clarks.
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Is the clark much heavier or larger than the T18/19 ?
Sorry for late post.
I saw Clark mentioned earlier. That is what I went with on my 352. I got a Clark 265 out of a 1966 Ford B700 (School Bus) It had a 330 in it as well. I took the bellhousing, and flywheel along with the starter and bought a new Clutch disc, flywheel, pilot bearing, and throwout bearing for the School bus application at Napa and it all bolted up to my 352. *Note: The 352 has the same crank as the 330 M/D
Another Note: The bellhousing was cast with two mounts and the trans with none. So In some cases you might have to go with a single forward engine mount and not two side mounts. I don't know if your truck is set up this way or not. But just a heads up.
Yet Another Note: There are a few different Clark Transmissions (Patterns are out of a 66 Ford Large truck Manual.)
4 spd shift pattern.
1 3
|-|-|
2 4 R
5 Speed Direct
2 4 R
|-|-|
3 5 1
5 Spd OD
2 OD R
|- | -|
3 4 1
There are also a few different models of Clarks. I got the 265 There are a few variants of it but the one you want is the 280. Lots better parts availability.
That's the limit of my knowledge on Clarks.
I saw Clark mentioned earlier. That is what I went with on my 352. I got a Clark 265 out of a 1966 Ford B700 (School Bus) It had a 330 in it as well. I took the bellhousing, and flywheel along with the starter and bought a new Clutch disc, flywheel, pilot bearing, and throwout bearing for the School bus application at Napa and it all bolted up to my 352. *Note: The 352 has the same crank as the 330 M/D
Another Note: The bellhousing was cast with two mounts and the trans with none. So In some cases you might have to go with a single forward engine mount and not two side mounts. I don't know if your truck is set up this way or not. But just a heads up.
Yet Another Note: There are a few different Clark Transmissions (Patterns are out of a 66 Ford Large truck Manual.)
4 spd shift pattern.
1 3
|-|-|
2 4 R
5 Speed Direct
2 4 R
|-|-|
3 5 1
5 Spd OD
2 OD R
|- | -|
3 4 1
There are also a few different models of Clarks. I got the 265 There are a few variants of it but the one you want is the 280. Lots better parts availability.
That's the limit of my knowledge on Clarks.
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