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Removing inner wheels on F5

 
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Old 08-25-2010, 03:02 PM
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Removing inner wheels on F5

OK, I got my new 'non widowmaker' wheels ready to mount, but I can't get the inner rear wheels off. I thought I read somewhere that the stud ws actually an inner stud/nut combination that must be removed to get the rear wheels off. Some of these look like they go through the inner wheel and some look like they are over them. Hard to tell with all the rust. I checked the shop manual, but it is really vague on this issue.
If they are studs/nuts, will they be the same thread inside as outside?
 
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I believe what ya got is a bud nut and thimble nut assembly. ya got to take the thimble off that the outside wheel nuts go on. Takes what is called a thimble socket or one that is a combination socket. The thimble nut looks like a stud but it is what is holding the inner wheels on and will come off.
 
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Yep.
You removed the large hex head nuts (outer nuts) to remove the outer wheels. Now to remove the inner wheels you must remove the inner nuts. They have a 13/16 square head. To keep from rounding it off, only use a 4 point (square) socket. With the torque required, an 8 point or 12 point socket will just round it off.
 
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Joe - I replied to your p.m. with diagrams and pics. Stu
 
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Thanks guys, I stopped at the NAPA store and asked the guy for a thimble socket and he was totally puzzled. When I told him what it was for he said, "Oh, we always called those a 'Bud' socket." I knew then we were on the right track. They didn't have any, but it will be there in the morning for me.

Stu, thanks for the pm, I sent you a follow up.
 
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Joe - the inner cap nut is threaded on to the stud just as on the fronts. Keep in mind these things were put on at 500 pounds of torque, and they've been on there a lot of years. So you might need to "encourage" them to come off. Some heat, some PB Blaster, and a BFH should do the job once you've got your socket. Stu
 
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Joe - the inner cap nut is threaded on to the stud just as on the fronts. Keep in mind these things were put on at 500 pounds of torque, and they've been on there a lot of years. So you might need to "encourage" them to come off. Some heat, some PB Blaster, and a BFH should do the job once you've got your socket. Stu
I suspect the PO ran into the same thing. All of the outer lug nuts were really free and came off with little effort. I have no delusions that the inners will be the same.
 
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I lucked out and found a FOMOCO script Bud or thimble socket a few years ago. Will work nicely on my M-H!

They may have right and left hand threads, some trucks do.
 
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I lucked out and found a FOMOCO script Bud or thimble socket a few years ago. Will work nicely on my M-H!

They may have right and left hand threads, some trucks do.
They will for certain be left and right hand threads. I "splained" that in our PMs. Any plans to move the M-H west, or have you done that already? Stu
 
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I'm just waiting until I know where we'll be. Oregon is in such an economic mess, keep earning less, and less, and less.
 
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I'm just waiting until I know where we'll be. Oregon is in such an economic mess, keep earning less, and less, and less.
I hear you. Your state is like mine, controlled by the free spending types in your northern big city. At least yours don't go to jail. Sometime I'd like to hear your views on Oregon's prohibition on drivers pumping their own gas. Oregon and New Jersey, as I understand, are the only states with that law. That discussion might be best handled with PMs. Stu
 
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Picked up the socket at NAPA this morning, stopped at Lowes for a 4' x 1 1/4" pipe and headed for the wheels. The 4 foot pipe on my 3/4" breaker bar made quick work of those inner nuts. Got all the wheels changed over pretty quickly and this guy is now a happy camper.

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Thanks for the help guys!!!
 
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Outstanding Joe. They look great. The white works well with the grey truck. Stu
 
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Outstanding Joe. They look great. The white works well with the grey truck. Stu
Actually it is Palisade Green.
 
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Nice Job!!
 

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