2011 F250 4x4 - NOT!
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2011 F250 4x4 - NOT!
I recently took delivery of customer ordered 2011 F250 loaded truck. This has the new 6.7 diesel and overall I think the truck is great vehicle. Here is the problem.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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I recently was out on my land and on stone driveway and engine oil light came on (400 miles). After further investigation I found small stick, flipped up and damaged oil filter, leaking oil everywhere. I had to get the vehicle towed to Ford, local parts stores do not yet carry the new oil filter.<o></o>
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After further looking at this, I noticed the oil filter sticks down below the engine, not guard and no skid plate, no protection at all. I was astounded, that for 50K+ I have a 4x4 with a oil filter not protected.<o></o>
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I asked at dealer if I could buy a protection plate and was told no.<o></o>
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If this is true - than this is NOT a 4x4 vehicle and I am one pissed off customer. If this is not true, can someone help me?<o></o>
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I recently was out on my land and on stone driveway and engine oil light came on (400 miles). After further investigation I found small stick, flipped up and damaged oil filter, leaking oil everywhere. I had to get the vehicle towed to Ford, local parts stores do not yet carry the new oil filter.<o></o>
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After further looking at this, I noticed the oil filter sticks down below the engine, not guard and no skid plate, no protection at all. I was astounded, that for 50K+ I have a 4x4 with a oil filter not protected.<o></o>
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I asked at dealer if I could buy a protection plate and was told no.<o></o>
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If this is true - than this is NOT a 4x4 vehicle and I am one pissed off customer. If this is not true, can someone help me?<o></o>
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I have to admit that I'd be pretty upset if this happened to me, but put this in perspective. Have you ever seen a vehicle with every single underside component protected from the factory? Heck, there are all kinds of spots that could be damaged by objects off-road on every truck I've ever seen.
If it weren't the oil filter it may have been the oil pan, transmission pan, radiator hoses, etc. That stick poked through a METAL oil filter; this could have happened to any number of components.
How long did you run with low oil pressure? Is your engine okay?
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4x4 NOT!
I understand all this. Most 4x4 come with skid plates to protect most engine parts that could be struck by dirt, mud, bottom-out, etc. I figured ordering the snow package I would have this. Well no, so I even said well this is dump, please order me skid plates. Ford says there are none.
I have to totally dis-agree with you, a 4x4 should sustain some off road use and be protected, not have a very thin oil filter sticking down below the engine without any protection. This is just a stupid design, and complete failure on part of ford.
The engine light came on and shut it off, no damage.
The oil filter is not like the old ones, it's the same as on any car, think metal that a pen could poke through.
I have to totally dis-agree with you, a 4x4 should sustain some off road use and be protected, not have a very thin oil filter sticking down below the engine without any protection. This is just a stupid design, and complete failure on part of ford.
The engine light came on and shut it off, no damage.
The oil filter is not like the old ones, it's the same as on any car, think metal that a pen could poke through.
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I understand all this. Most 4x4 come with skid plates to protect most engine parts that could be struck by dirt, mud, bottom-out, etc. I figured ordering the snow package I would have this. Well no, so I even said well this is dump, please order me skid plates. Ford says there are none.
I have to totally dis-agree with you, a 4x4 should sustain some off road use and be protected, not have a very thin oil filter sticking down below the engine without any protection. This is just a stupid design, and complete failure on part of ford.
The engine light came on and shut it off, no damage.
The oil filter is not like the old ones, it's the same as on any car, think metal that a pen could poke through.
I have to totally dis-agree with you, a 4x4 should sustain some off road use and be protected, not have a very thin oil filter sticking down below the engine without any protection. This is just a stupid design, and complete failure on part of ford.
The engine light came on and shut it off, no damage.
The oil filter is not like the old ones, it's the same as on any car, think metal that a pen could poke through.
Put them on myself.
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I understand all this. Most 4x4 come with skid plates to protect most engine parts that could be struck by dirt, mud, bottom-out, etc. I figured ordering the snow package I would have this. Well no, so I even said well this is dump, please order me skid plates. Ford says there are none.
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Yes, it should be protected but its not and you're not going to get Ford to do anything about it.
Option 1: Look into a remote filter adapter. There's probably not a kit but all the parts exist and a clever shop can put one together.
Option 2: Go to a PROPER off-road fab shop (one that builds race cars) and see if you can get them to fab something for you.
Hint: Sell them on the idea of producing a kit for the new trucks and you might get yours for free.
Option 1: Look into a remote filter adapter. There's probably not a kit but all the parts exist and a clever shop can put one together.
Option 2: Go to a PROPER off-road fab shop (one that builds race cars) and see if you can get them to fab something for you.
Hint: Sell them on the idea of producing a kit for the new trucks and you might get yours for free.
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Yeah, I was kidding. Kind of like these must be jokes, "I figured ordering the snow package I would have this. (skid plates)" and "If this is true - than this is NOT a 4x4 vehicle...(a oil filter not protected)". I've seen a couple posts recently from consumers that are pissed at Ford or the dealership (or anyone but themselves) because of their own lack of research and planning.
OP, come on, if you wanted a "real" 4x4 for offroad you should have looked at this stuff. Tell me you looked at the air intake so you know how deep of water you can go through, or the breather lines on the differentials, transmission, etc before you bought your truck. You checked all the electrical "boxes" too right to make sure you knew where they were, waterproofed them too? You have a skid plate on your gas tank and transmission/transfer case, right? You had a place install lockers front and rear too, and put on more aggressive tires too. Or if you didn't do all of this and more it's Ford's fault, or the dealership, or even maybe my fault because I read about it online...but not your fault, right?
So Franko, yeah, I was joking, being sarcastic, facetious, something. I can't believe someone is so upset that they don't have a 4x4 (is that somehow a subjective term...or do they really have a 4x4) because their oil filter is in the wrong place (again subjective, because an engineer put it where it goes and the consumer doesn't get to pick a spot and have Ford design it that way).
OP, come on, if you wanted a "real" 4x4 for offroad you should have looked at this stuff. Tell me you looked at the air intake so you know how deep of water you can go through, or the breather lines on the differentials, transmission, etc before you bought your truck. You checked all the electrical "boxes" too right to make sure you knew where they were, waterproofed them too? You have a skid plate on your gas tank and transmission/transfer case, right? You had a place install lockers front and rear too, and put on more aggressive tires too. Or if you didn't do all of this and more it's Ford's fault, or the dealership, or even maybe my fault because I read about it online...but not your fault, right?
So Franko, yeah, I was joking, being sarcastic, facetious, something. I can't believe someone is so upset that they don't have a 4x4 (is that somehow a subjective term...or do they really have a 4x4) because their oil filter is in the wrong place (again subjective, because an engineer put it where it goes and the consumer doesn't get to pick a spot and have Ford design it that way).
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Yeah, I was kidding. Kind of like these must be jokes, "I figured ordering the snow package I would have this. (skid plates)" and "If this is true - than this is NOT a 4x4 vehicle...(a oil filter not protected)". I've seen a couple posts recently from consumers that are pissed at Ford or the dealership (or anyone but themselves) because of their own lack of research and planning.
OP, come on, if you wanted a "real" 4x4 for offroad you should have looked at this stuff. Tell me you looked at the air intake so you know how deep of water you can go through, or the breather lines on the differentials, transmission, etc before you bought your truck. You checked all the electrical "boxes" too right to make sure you knew where they were, waterproofed them too? You have a skid plate on your gas tank and transmission/transfer case, right? You had a place install lockers front and rear too, and put on more aggressive tires too. Or if you didn't do all of this and more it's Ford's fault, or the dealership, or even maybe my fault because I read about it online...but not your fault, right?
So Franko, yeah, I was joking, being sarcastic, facetious, something. I can't believe someone is so upset that they don't have a 4x4 (is that somehow a subjective term...or do they really have a 4x4) because their oil filter is in the wrong place (again subjective, because an engineer put it where it goes and the consumer doesn't get to pick a spot and have Ford design it that way).
OP, come on, if you wanted a "real" 4x4 for offroad you should have looked at this stuff. Tell me you looked at the air intake so you know how deep of water you can go through, or the breather lines on the differentials, transmission, etc before you bought your truck. You checked all the electrical "boxes" too right to make sure you knew where they were, waterproofed them too? You have a skid plate on your gas tank and transmission/transfer case, right? You had a place install lockers front and rear too, and put on more aggressive tires too. Or if you didn't do all of this and more it's Ford's fault, or the dealership, or even maybe my fault because I read about it online...but not your fault, right?
So Franko, yeah, I was joking, being sarcastic, facetious, something. I can't believe someone is so upset that they don't have a 4x4 (is that somehow a subjective term...or do they really have a 4x4) because their oil filter is in the wrong place (again subjective, because an engineer put it where it goes and the consumer doesn't get to pick a spot and have Ford design it that way).