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Woops... Forgot about the doc fee in my earlier formula. It should be...

Dealer Invoice (minus) 0.4% (plus) $275 Administration Fee (plus) up to $75 in documentary fees...

Note: The Administration Fee is already calculated into the X-Plan price on the invoice. Documentary fees are not precalculated as it is up to the dealer to decide if they want to charge you nothing, $75 or any number inbetween...
 
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In my case, the X-Plan was Dealer Invoice (plus) $100 (plus) $75 doc fee. Then I had $2,000 in rebates to further reduce the price. Agreed that you have to watch out for dealer adds. He tried to slip in a $495 VTR (vehicle theft recovery) junk.

The dealer makes his profit via the factory holdback which was approximately $2,200. Everyone was happy.

Besides the holdback they also get a percentage of the deal paid to them by Ford...
 
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Supply and demand. As soon as the 2010 inventory is cleared, the 2011's will roll in, but, like you, I am leaning, but not towards DODGE.
They are going to roll in, but not any faster then they are now unless demand drops. At nearly 70 units a hour they really can not build them much faster. For the most part they are selling them faster then they can make them...
 
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I do not see how this salesman can be right on this count. Ford is building them as fast as they can. They are 35000 units behind in production. Sounds like an allocation issue at your dealer. The real reason dealers have a bunch of 2010 trucks is they are having a hard time selling them due to the "so far" tremendous success of the 2011 6.7's. I am curios as to how many 6.4's your dealer has in stock.

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The dealers around my area have no more new 2010's on the lots. The largest Ford Dealer in my area has only 2 2010's left. Both are F450's. That's about it in my area.
 
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Originally Posted by PowerStrokeHD
They are going to roll in, but not any faster then they are now unless demand drops. At nearly 70 units a hour they really can not build them much faster. For the most part they are selling them faster then they can make them...
I only have a couple questions:

Show and tell? Sells demographics should be available, but when?

Prove it? Anyone have photographs of the staging area in KY?

70 units an hour? WOW! People all over the world are buying Super Duty diesel trucks with the 6.7 engine.

I talked to five dealers in Georgia.

As I said above, prove it!

 
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:26 PM
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There is a post on one of the other threads here from one of the guy's at the KY truck plant. He attached the minutes from their weekly union meeting,complete with production quotas. That is where the 70 truck an hour statement came from. It is either true or he went through a lot of work to make it up. I believe him. As stated before by me, Woodhouse Ford in Blair, Nebraska has over 150 6.7 diesels on their lot.

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Originally Posted by rmosso1
I only have a couple questions:

Show and tell? Sells demographics should be available, but when?

Prove it? Anyone have photographs of the staging area in KY?

70 units an hour? WOW! People all over the world are buying Super Duty diesel trucks with the 6.7 engine.

I talked to five dealers in Georgia.

As I said above, prove it!

As pointed out by rickatic, the local 862 meeting notes (current and archived) are a good way to keep track of production at KTP. They can be found at the following link...

UAW 862
 
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As pointed out by rickatic, the local 862 meeting notes (current and archived) are a good way to keep track of production at KTP. They can be found at the following link...

UAW 862
I tried. Perhaps you can direct me to the correct link. I would like to see, in print, where they are mfring. 70 Super Duty trucks per hour.

The link has a zillion buttons. I spent half an hour and couldn't find anything about production. Probably missed it. Thanks,
 
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I tried. Perhaps you can direct me to the correct link. I would like to see, in print, where they are mfring. 70 Super Duty trucks per hour.

The link has a zillion buttons. I spent half an hour and couldn't find anything about production. Probably missed it. Thanks,
Here is a direct link for the August meeting notes. The current production outlook is discussed in the KTP Chairman Report section...

http://uaw862.org/Union%20Meetingaug2010.pdf
 
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I am still missing the math. Here is what the KTP Chairman said:
KTP Chairman Report
• The current order bank is: 32,907 units for Super Duty; 6,012 units for
Expedition; 1,110 units for Navigator. This does not include the 2011 orders for
Expedition/Navigator. The launch for this is August 16, 2010.
• Schedule for the current week is 1,260 units off the chassis lines which should be
approximately an 8.6 hours schedule. The week of August 16, 2010, has the
plan at 1,177 units which is approximately 8 hours. This is due to the launch of
the Expedition/Navigator. The week of August 23, 2010, returns the plant to
1,351 units which are approximately 9.3 hours per day. This should be the
schedule for the remainder of the year.

I do not see where this equates to 70 Super Duty trucks per hour. Any help for this feeble mind appreciated.
 
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it looks like it should be about 30 unit and hour and they all will not be supper dutys
 
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Originally Posted by rmosso1
I am still missing the math. Here is what the KTP Chairman said:
KTP Chairman Report
• The current order bank is: 32,907 units for Super Duty; 6,012 units for
Expedition; 1,110 units for Navigator. This does not include the 2011 orders for
Expedition/Navigator. The launch for this is August 16, 2010.
• Schedule for the current week is 1,260 units off the chassis lines which should be
approximately an 8.6 hours schedule. The week of August 16, 2010, has the
plan at 1,177 units which is approximately 8 hours. This is due to the launch of
the Expedition/Navigator. The week of August 23, 2010, returns the plant to
1,351 units which are approximately 9.3 hours per day. This should be the
schedule for the remainder of the year.

I do not see where this equates to 70 Super Duty trucks per hour. Any help for this feeble mind appreciated.

We'll use the week starting August 23rd as the example... 2 shifts at 9.3 hours per day equals 18.6 hours of production per day. So you take the desired 1,351 units per day and divide that by the 18.6 hours and you get approximately 72.63 units per hour.



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it looks like it should be about 30 unit and hour and they all will not be supper dutys

No, they will not all be Super Duty's, but when you are talking about production and vehicle availablility you have to look at the plants total capacity. Regardless, Expy/Nav is only a small percentage of the total production...
 
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Or if my math is correct: 72.63 units/hour divided by 60 minutes equals something like 1.2 units per MINUTE. Wow. That line must be spitting them Super Duty's out the door.

I can understand maybe an hour, but to do it for 9.3 hours a day for 2 shifts, hard for me to believe.
 
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That's why they call it an assembly line.
 
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That's why they call it an assembly line.
 


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