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Old 08-04-2010, 08:56 AM
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The 5.0 vs. 5.8 debate just got a lot more interesting

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412+ horsepower @ 6500 rpm and 390 ft.-lb.+ of torque @ 4250 rpm (with premium fuel)






Disclaimer: Yes I know it's not anything like the SBF 302, thanks.
 
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:57 AM
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yea max torque at 4200rpms for a truck you really want that coming back down to around 3000-3500rpms. max hp at 6500 rpms needs to be around 4500 for a truck also.

sweet motor regardless, i want 2012 stang convert.
 
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I've always wanted to see a Triton V10 conversion in a Bronco
 
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Originally Posted by mprice
Ford Racing Performance Parts - [Part Details]

412+ horsepower @ 6500 rpm and 390 ft.-lb.+ of torque @ 4250 rpm (with premium fuel).

Despite all the hoopla surrounding the new 5.0 I don't think it's a suitable truck engine, low rpm Tq is what trucks are all about(can't tell that to a some guys on the new truck forums though) so that 5.0 will be just as gutless as the 4.6 or the old 5.0 unless it somehow manages to produce most of that TQ at 2000rpm. I'd rather have a 300hp 5.8 or 6.0.
 
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It's totally not a truck engine. It definitely belongs in a street car.

But...

Ford Racing's new all-aluminum 5.0L Mustang crate engine is a modern 5.0L 32-valve DOHC V-8 that uses advanced features like Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing (Ti-VCT) to deliver 412+ horsepower @ 6500 rpm and 390 ft.-lb.+ of torque @ 4250 rpm (with premium fuel)
 
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:52 PM
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Perfect motor for a light car, but trucks shouldn't have spark plugs.
 
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Funny thing you say that, as i can bet you the proportion of trucks that use sparkplugs is around 3/1 versus diesels. It gets really bothering hearing about diesel guys at times...
 
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Funny thing you say that, as i can bet you the proportion of trucks that use sparkplugs is around 3/1 versus diesels. It gets really bothering hearing about diesel guys at times...
Huh. I was sort of kidding, as I do like gas inline 6s in trucks too, but since you made a point; You're right about the diesel/gas ratio. In fact, there seems to be even fewer diesels than that, which is unfortunate. Thankfully, the heavy trucks I drove all those years had diesels in them.
It's interesting that it bothers you when I keep pushing for more diesels on the roads. It would be nice to see far less fuel consumption and a reduction in America's reliance on imported oil.
If it's any consolation, the V8 in my car gets 1 or 2 mpg around town.
 
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:46 PM
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Most people just don't understand the appeal of a diesel. Awsome low end torque, great fuel economy even when pulling a wicked load and last but far from least is the longevity of the engines. The 6.9 I put in my bronco had over 250,000 miles on it. When I opened it up to refresh it I found that I had wasted my money. It looked almost new inside. Then there are the side benifits. The clack clack clack, the smell of diesel fuel and exhaust. Oh ya and when some fool wants to tail gate me or act like a idiot I can stomp the smoke pedal and make them wish they had an airtight cabin lol.
 
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Most people just don't understand the appeal of a diesel. Awsome low end torque, great fuel economy even when pulling a wicked load and last but far from least is the longevity of the engines. The 6.9 I put in my bronco had over 250,000 miles on it. When I opened it up to refresh it I found that I had wasted my money. It looked almost new inside. Then there are the side benifits. The clack clack clack, the smell of diesel fuel and exhaust. Oh ya and when some fool wants to tail gate me or act like a idiot I can stomp the smoke pedal and make them wish they had an airtight cabin lol.
Agreed on all counts. Especially the part about smoking the fools!
 
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I prefer diesel engines to gas engines for the same reasons, durability, mileage, torque. Yet still, many diesel guys get annoying with the lame comments and at times reading that sort of things get to my nerves, joke or not. Old diesels were a lot more dirty than new ones, so their number might be up soon.
 
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Old 08-08-2010, 09:33 AM
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If they try to take these older rigs off th roads then every single car, truck, motorcycle etc. would have to be removed as well that "dirty". That will never happen at least not as long people stand up for their rights. I like many out their can afford to buy a newer truck let alone a brand new one. So these old beasts will be here a long time. Besides, if you don't mess with the fuel and keep the maintance up these old diesels don't put out as much as a comperable gasser.
 
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I meant that the time for a lot more diesels on the road might be coming. And no, you can keep a spotless maintenance schedule on an old diesel and it still will be more dirty than a normally operated gasser.
 
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Even if it's burning half as much fuel? If they both produced an identical parts per million pollution level when measured at the tailpipe, the one that burns half as much fuel would be twice as clean.
 


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