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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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First coolant filter change

WOW!!! Installed the dieselsite coolant filter on my new to me 05, 6.0. I had all the fluids changed right after I bought it so I had a new starting point for my ownership. The truck had 100,000 miles. I asked the Ford dealer to flush my coolant and all they did was drain it. Put in 50/50 mix of their "filtered tap water" and gold coolant. I got home installed coolant filter and 5,000 miles later changed the filter.

I can not believe what I saw, sand, sand and more sand. Also about 2 tablespoons of a slimmy pudding like substance between the pleats of the filter. I squeezed the slim out so I could post a pic but the wife and daughter left this afternoon for the weekend and took the camera.

Please if you don't have a filter on your rig and think you have to many miles on it to think it doesn't matter, take my word (and others) and put one on a.s.a.p.

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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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Andre, glad to hear the positive results.

My question is: did you change it based on a set amount of miles you estimated for results, or did the filter cool off, indicating time to change, or some other reason?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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I'm doing my first flush today on my 06. The full on VC-9 flush mind you. Already had a filter on there. I changed my 1st filter after 1500 miles and only found about 2-3 teaspoons of sand in there. I guess it's like they say some have it and some don't. Although I'm interested to see what todays coolant filter (2nd) looks like after 5K and a flush. 54K on the truck. I'll post pics if it's bad.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Dan, I read where it was suggested to change the first filter after 500 miles, second 1000 miles and 1 year for the third or if it gets clogged. I kept feeling the filter and the line running to the degaus container and they were also hot very hot so I took it as fluid was still running through it. I never could see the fluid free running in the container.

So to answer your question, I had no set time or miles but more about when I finally got time to go to NAPA and buy a replacement filter, 5000 miles just happened to be the miles. I think I'll change this one sooner just to see if it's catching more stuff.

I'd like to know if others found the soft pudding like substance in the paper?

The real good news is, after I cut the paper off the filter, the inner steel wall of the flter is sand free and clean, so it goes to show that the paper is catching everything.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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If you check the output hose temp. compared to the heater hose temp. and they feel the same then the filter is still good.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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With all this sand on the coolant side I wonder how much is running around on the oil side of the block ?!?!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by solaratomic
I'm doing my first flush today on my 06. The full on VC-9 flush mind you. Already had a filter on there. I changed my 1st filter after 1500 miles and only found about 2-3 teaspoons of sand in there. I guess it's like they say some have it and some don't. Although I'm interested to see what todays coolant filter (2nd) looks like after 5K and a flush. 54K on the truck. I'll post pics if it's bad.
Dude 2-3 teaspoons is allot of sand!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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With all this sand on the coolant side I wonder how much is running around on the oil side of the block ?!?!
To my knowledge the oil passages are machined so you won't have the same problem. If you did the engine would already be history.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 8lug
With all this sand on the coolant side I wonder how much is running around on the oil side of the block ?!?!
Your oil filter would catch it
Sand particles are huge!
No worries.....
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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How are you guys cutting your filters open? Large Pipe cutter? I cut my last one open with my angle grinder but it seems like this would skew what you're actually seeing in the filter, just because of the particles that are created when you cut it. I finished my flush this morning, turning the filter upside down resulted in about 1 teaspoon of sand in a coffee filter. But the filter feels heavy compaired to the new one even after draining it out. Very interested in seeing what's in it.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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I used a lathe. after you cut it open drag your fingernail through one of the rows. Do you get a gooie substance?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Well I went ahead and cut my filter open with my grinder. I found what I would estimate at about 1/8 of a cup of sand. Just goes to show you that even the later models have a significant amount of sand in them. What I found wasn't nearly as bad as some of the others I have seen, as in piles of sand. But I would still consider my investment in the coolant filter system on my 06 as money well spent. Thank goodness I didn't listen to the 2-3 techs that told me that a coolant filter wouldn't do any good and was a waste of money.

I did not have any gooie substances in my filter pleats.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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I thought the "gooey substance" is usually because of using the wrong filter...a charged filter instead of a Baldwin B5134 (or direct replacement). When you said you have/had 5k miles on this filter...is that the 1st or 2nd filter for the truck?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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It was the first filter, and it was the Baldwin B5134 that came with the dieselsite coolant filter kit, so I know it was the correct filter application and not a charged filter.

My second filter that I'm using is a NAPA 4070, again not a charged filter but a direct replacement for the Baldwin B5134.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by grayf250
It was the first filter, and it was the Baldwin B5134 that came with the dieselsite coolant filter kit, so I know it was the correct filter application and not a charged filter.

My second filter that I'm using is a NAPA 4070, again not a charged filter but a direct replacement for the Baldwin B5134.
Wanted to check on which filter your removed (1st, 2nd, etc) and those are the correct filter numbers. As far as the goo...what coolant are you running? You shouldn't have any goo in the coolant; if it's "plugging the pleats" it could be blocking passages in the heads/intake along with the runners in the radiator.

And for the record a couple of other numbers to cross reference to:

Napa 4070
Wix 24070
Donaldson P554685
 
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