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Vendor Advice:Reman Steering Box,'59 F250

 
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Thankfully,that's what I had used,90 wt.,I think,but wondered if I was correct,as it still has a good leak.
 
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Could be (likely) that the seal area of the leaky shaft was worn or damaged and you didn't notice it. Many think that a rubber seal won't wear the shaft so don't check the seal area but indeed it can and will, abrasive grit embeds itself into the rubber and acts like sandpaper to the harder shaft. Rebuilders understand this fact and check or replace the shaft along with the seal. Another cause of leakage can be an overfilled box. If it is too full the heat expanded lube has no place to go except past the seal. 90 wt gear lube is the correct lube, try draining a little to give it expansion room and see if the leak stops.

BOR, note that the original poster is working on a 59 F250, parts for an F1 isn't going to help him much.
 
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I just got finished putting one back together from a 59 F500, I only tore it down for cleaning and replaced the seal and cover gasket. Then it was adjusted using a tourqe wrench per the shop manual. A total rebuild would have involved bushings, bearings and shaft, not really that big of a deal but the one I have was from a low milage farm truck and was still in good shape.
After searching around this forum for hours, I found where Number Dummy said they were to be filled with a certain vintage Ford grease that was replaced by another Ford grease that is kind of a do all high temperature tolerant type stuff. How's that for a technical description. I looked into this almost a month ago and much water has flown under the bridge since then and the grandchildren have been here for two weeks, so the brain has turned to mush. I ended up using some off the shelve grease that said Ford on it from Advanced Auto that was comparable. Since I have an extra gear box, I took the plug out of the other unit and drilled and tapped it for a grease fitting. It took nearly a whole tube. The directions were to take out the bottom cover screw and keep on pumping untill the grease came out the bottom hole. Even if you don't have another fill cap to tap it would not really hurt to drive around with an extra grease fitting in tow!

LMC gets around $425 for a rebuilt unit I think!


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So,was I wrong to have put 90 wt. in it? Is that why it's leaking,because the 90 wt. is thinner than a grease would be?I have the original shop manual,as well as owners and specifications manuals,and couldn't find what the steering box required,but could have missed it.I should contact ND,I guess.
 
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That's what I ran into. I am working on a 60 and there isn't any mention of what to fill it up with in that manual either. So I started searching this forum and found the info from ND. I looked around for it again and it is under a post titled "1964 steering gear box" posted by Voodoo66 on 03-24-09. If I knew how to give you a link I would, but that's the best I can do. They may have used gear oil on the older models?? Usually everytime I found a thread about gear oil in the steering boxes they ended with the fact that they are leaking.
 
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Well,thanks to Spurredon and NumberDummy,I did some further questioning and research about the proper lubrication for my steering box.An in-depth discussion can be found here:

http://www.stangerssite.com/KnowSteeringBox.html

The short version is that the gear oil I'd put in was incorrect, which explains why it began leaking out immediately.The proper lubricant is a moly- based grease,Ford used to,and may still sell.There are several places on the web that sell it,but the article says that a good moly-based chassis grease,but NOT wheel bearing grease,will be fine.Even the better parts stores,who have mostly younger guys were puzzled when I called making inquiries,finally got an older guy at a Napa store who knew because he had an old Ford truck.He even said he may have a few tubes remaining at home and will give them to me since the truck is gone now.If you've got time check that article out, I guess I'm not the only misinformed guy out there.


Just found the thread Spurredon talked about where NumberDummy even gives the Motorcraft number for the correct lubricant!here's the link:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-gear-box.html
 

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