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Old 07-20-2010, 12:01 PM
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Considering a '67 Ford F100...

Here's the story. Currently I'm living in South Korea and when I return, I'll need a vehicle. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to anything autos. I've found a great like for '67-'72 Ford F100s over the last year and would like to have one for my next vehicle. Now finding one of these where I live has been very difficult, thus I jumped at the opportunity to have my brother go look at a very decent looking '67 F100 even though I won't be returning for another 4 months. So my brother went to take a look for me and test drove it. He took pics, in addition to the ones I've seen, and video and this is what I've concluded:

Great body, little to no rust
Great paint job, looks slick
Great interior with leather seats
Starts and runs fine (will have mechanic look at it later)
Good tires
$2500 asking price, which is about half of what I'm willing to spend
Pretty much the performance of the truck is fine

What I'm concerned about is, no power steering, no power breaks, no seat belts, and no door locks. My brother said the turning and breaking were extremely difficult. How easy and expensive would it be to install these components? Should I expect this in most of the other F100s if I take a look?

The reason I feel I should jump on this opportunity is the low price and the slim availability of the trucks where I live.

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Old 07-20-2010, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by husker16
Here's the story. Currently I'm living in South Korea and when I return, I'll need a vehicle. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to anything autos. I've found a great like for '67-'72 Ford F100s over the last year and would like to have one for my next vehicle. Now finding one of these where I live has been very difficult, thus I jumped at the opportunity to have my brother go look at a very decent looking '67 F100 even though I won't be returning for another 4 months. So my brother went to take a look for me and test drove it. He took pics, in addition to the ones I've seen, and video and this is what I've concluded:

What I'm concerned about is, no power steering, no power brakes, no seat belts, and no door locks.

My brother said the turning and breaking were extremely difficult. How easy and expensive would it be to install these components? Should I expect this in most of the other F100s if I take a look?

The reason I feel I should jump on this opportunity is the low price and the slim availability of the trucks where I live.

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It looks OK at first glance, but looks can be deceiving.

What year is this truck? The hood side emblems were used on 1967's only as they have no reflector lenses, while 1968/72's have them.

There are no reflectors on the bed, another sign it's a 1967.

But, the right and left doors are from a 1968/72, 1967's did not have door lock *****.

1967: You pushed the inner door handles forward to lock the doors.

1967's have many features unique to 1967's only.

1967 differences from 1968/72's: Door shells and all internal parts (except glass, weatherstrips and division bars), dashboard, instrument cluster bezel, radio, heater, firewall, brake and clutch pedals, bracket they hang from under the dash, master cylinder, power brake booster, proportioning valve and low brake warning light switch, ignition switch, hood side emblems.

1967 was the first year Ford offered seat belts as standard equipment on F100/350's. These were lap belts only.

Power Steering, Power Drum Brakes were optional at additional cost, as were rear bumpers.

All trucks of this vintage came with two door lock cylinders, so when you say it has no door locks, what does that mean?

For what reason were the doors changed? Was the truck T-boned at some point, or did the original doors rust out?

The VIN on the registration will not match the VIN on the Warranty Plate, none of the codes on the Warranty Plate relating to COLOR/MODEL/AXLE/TRANS and etc will match this truck.

The Warranty Plate is located on the left door face below the latch. When people replaced damaged left doors with used doors, 99.9% of the time, they did not install the original Warranty Plate on the replaced door.

This truck is a Custom Cab, but the side mouldings are missing. From the looks of things, the multiple holes where the moulding clips were attached were filled in when the truck was repainted.
 
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Old 07-20-2010, 01:59 PM
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That is definitely a nice looking truck and probably worth the $2500. Power brakes would be nice, but manual drums are not that hard to drive with (drums use about half the line pressure of discs to stop, so the pedal effort is not as bad as you might assume). The manual steering though, I don't know. It's a heavy truck and in tight spaces, when you are going very slow (for example, trying to park) will be a bear!
 
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:08 PM
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It also has a 69 Ranger grille? What happened to the original 67 grille???
Was this truck in an accident at some point of it's life??? I can't zoom in on the inside rear view mirror thus further telling me it's a 67.
 
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It also has a 69 Ranger grille? What happened to the original 67 grille???
Was this truck in an accident at some point of it's life??? I can't zoom in on the inside rear view mirror thus further telling me it's a 67.
Good eyes...Robert, I missed see the 1969 only Ranger's grille indentation (center horizontal bar).

IMO, this truck is a cobbled up rolling pile of miseries. The shiny red paint makes it look like a million bucks...to untrained eyes and 's experiencing "buck fever."

But, with the wrong doors, wrong grille, mis-matched hubcaps/wheelcovers, missing side mouldings, mickey-mouse door trim panels that don't fit worth a damn, 'gypo' outside mirrors, what else is wrong with it?

It's in Nebraska where they use salt on the roads. What is the condition of the cab mounts, cab corners, bed floor and crossmembers, radiator support, drip rails, the floor pan under that nice carpeting?

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all have rust, some of it covered up with bondo and undercoating, both used to hide the sins.

The fact there is no rear bumper is curious, because by now...you would think it would have one. It was prolly damaged, the seller couldn't find a replacement, so it's MIA.

There were different inside mirrors used on 1967's. One type glued to the windshield using a separate mounting bracket and arms, t'other was suspended on a bracket.

The DayNight mirror was an option, there were two types of these, depending on how they attached.

The time to find out what's wrong is BEFORE someone buys it...not afterwards.

Afterwards, it becomes a money pit.
 
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:19 PM
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Good eyes...Robert, I missed see the 1969 only Ranger's grille indentation (center horizontal bar).

Remember, grilles is what I do.
 
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Husker16,
My advice is to research the years you're interested in and then base a decision on buying on some of that new experience. I really looked into all the body styles and engines etc. prior to buying my truck ('66 F250). In the beginning, I was looking at
certain models here and there, not really knowing much (am still learning every day!)
and not knowing what to look for...rust in notorious areas, what engines were stock,
being able to look at a truck with problems and asess whether or not those problems were going to be a headache down the road or easy and not too costly to solve.
If you dive into this site and really look around, you'll be surprised how much you can learn in a short time.
I wouldn't rush into anything personally....trucks will always pop up for sale...
My big thing is that it is roadworthy and you can drive it while you work on it....
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Give a shout to any members in the area who could look at it for you. Someone with an eye for these trucks would be able to save you a lot of grief! As to upgrading to disk brakes & power steering, parts up til '79 bolt in. Best bet is to grab a whole parts truck & swap the parts you need, then resell or part out the donor. Of course, as a newbie, that might be a big project to take on. Good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by gangstakr
Good eyes...Robert, I missed seeing the 1969 only Ranger's grille indentation (center horizontal bar).

Remember, grilles is what I do.
Uh huh...Don't forget who you call on the telephone and ask what certain grilles fit and the years they fit that you find while scrounging, ditto for a gazillion other parts.

Just messin' with you Robert, no offense...but I couldn't resist!
 
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:51 PM
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Uh huh...Don't forget who you call on the telephone and ask what certain grilles fit and the years they fit that you find while scrounging, ditto for a gazillion other parts.

Just messin' with you Robert, no offense...but I couldn't resist!
I'm not worthy, (as I bow to your greatness) Once again you have taught me the ways of wisdom from you knowledgeable cranium. I shall never forget Master.
 
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Wow, thanks to all the replies. The truck is a '67 but the doors are from a '71 because I guess the originals were backed into. The owner doesn't have a key to the doors, so that's why he can't lock them. The floors and the bed of the truck are covered with a rubber coating that I'm not sure what it's called. With this truck being thrown together with different parts, is it still worth $2500? I've been looking at trucks for almost a year now and this is the first decent looking '67-'72 truck I've found in my area, so they are a rare thing to come by. If I pass this up, I'm not sure I'll find one for a long time. I've looked on eBay, and there are usually some good ones on there, but eBay is really risky. Anyone have any experience buying on eBay? Also, are there mechanics that install power steering and brakes, or would I have to do it myself? If so, how much would that cost?
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Welcome to FTE

It looks OK at first glance, but looks can be deceiving.

What year is this truck? The hood side emblems were used on 1967's only as they have no reflector lenses, while 1968/72's have them.

There are no reflectors on the bed, another sign it's a 1967.

But, the right and left doors are from a 1968/72, 1967's did not have door lock *****.

1967: You pushed the inner door handles forward to lock the doors.

1967's have many features unique to 1967's only.

1967 differences from 1968/72's: Door shells and all internal parts (except glass, weatherstrips and division bars), dashboard, instrument cluster bezel, radio, heater, firewall, brake and clutch pedals, bracket they hang from under the dash, master cylinder, power brake booster, proportioning valve and low brake warning light switch, ignition switch, hood side emblems.

1967 was the first year Ford offered seat belts as standard equipment on F100/350's. These were lap belts only.

Power Steering, Power Drum Brakes were optional at additional cost, as were rear bumpers.

All trucks of this vintage came with two door lock cylinders, so when you say it has no door locks, what does that mean?

For what reason were the doors changed? Was the truck T-boned at some point, or did the original doors rust out?

The VIN on the registration will not match the VIN on the Warranty Plate, none of the codes on the Warranty Plate relating to COLOR/MODEL/AXLE/TRANS and etc will match this truck.

The Warranty Plate is located on the left door face below the latch. When people replaced damaged left doors with used doors, 99.9% of the time, they did not install the original Warranty Plate on the replaced door.

This truck is a Custom Cab, but the side mouldings are missing. From the looks of things, the multiple holes where the moulding clips were attached were filled in when the truck was repainted.
Wow new to this sight and NumberDummy your knowledge and insight on this truck are impressive! I am also looking for late 60's to 79 ford truck. If sent you pics would you evaluate a truck and give your opinion on it? Thanks! Hope to learn a lot on this forum.
I know post is from many years back but just searching.
 
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Number dummy worked at a dealer for YEARS back when these trucks were new and afterwards. That's where most of his knowledge comes from.

There are many here that know just as much as well. Everyone together makes up probably the best and most knowledgeable group in the world!

If you find a truck you like, don't hesitate to post up pictures of it and ask questions. We can tell you everything and then some.

Good luck.

Now let this thread go back to its grave and rest....
 
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That truck looks spray bombed to me: door latches, dash pad, tailgate handle all are painted. Evidence of a hasty paint job.
 
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As 351 Cleveland noted, this thread is from 2010! Let it go.
 
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