Stock vs Aftermarket Air Filters
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Okay, I'm just being a smartass, but I don't think there is anything measurably better than the Donaldson in filtration or price, and flow just isn't an issue. You can get the Donaldson in a genuine Motorcraft, with synthetic media (my preference) or you can get one also by Donaldson sold as Primeguard with paper media for slightly less money. Either way, right around $50.
Considering that you might only need 4 of those filters over the life of your truck, I don't think it is worth looking at anything else.
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Like everyone here has already posted, keep it stock. There are really only two legitimate reasons for doing the a/m intake:
1. Because you think it looks cool(and maybe sound cool)
2. Able to be cleaned and used again.
2 may or may not be a good reason, it just depends on the working environment the truck is in. Which for the most part wouldn't be a concern for average truck owning joe nowadays(considering who is buying these trucks now versus who used to). That really leaves number 1, but that is strictly a matter of preferance.
Some things were actually done correctly from the factory(who knew). It is just hard to people out of the mentality that a/m is better then stock. That even doesn't apply to radios now in my opinion. The radio that's in my 150 is better then most of the radios that I've seen in the a/m sector. Certainly blows away the radio that's in my DRW.
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Cheezit: didn't forget; just got beaten to the punch. Three POUNDS is a LOT of dirt.
Oiled filters should NEVER be used with a MAF meter; the filter oil coats and biases the sensor too far out of bounds.
IMNSHO, the primary purpose of CAI's is to lighten the wallet, not improve the vehicle's performance. I did some research for a friend who was hell-bent on buying one for his "toaster" (a Scion xB); DYNO(!) tests revealed a whopping 1 HP increase. Almost too small to even be repeatably measurable, and FAR too small to be felt by the butt-dyno.
Save your cash for more worthy upgrades. Ford knocked THIS ball out of the park from the factory.
Tex: Now you know why I've been going so crazy to get a factory Audiophile system in my truck. It's THAT good, and almost no theft potential.
-blaine
Oiled filters should NEVER be used with a MAF meter; the filter oil coats and biases the sensor too far out of bounds.
IMNSHO, the primary purpose of CAI's is to lighten the wallet, not improve the vehicle's performance. I did some research for a friend who was hell-bent on buying one for his "toaster" (a Scion xB); DYNO(!) tests revealed a whopping 1 HP increase. Almost too small to even be repeatably measurable, and FAR too small to be felt by the butt-dyno.
Save your cash for more worthy upgrades. Ford knocked THIS ball out of the park from the factory.
Tex: Now you know why I've been going so crazy to get a factory Audiophile system in my truck. It's THAT good, and almost no theft potential.
-blaine
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IMNSHO, the primary purpose of CAI's is to lighten the wallet, not improve the vehicle's performance. I did some research for a friend who was hell-bent on buying one for his "toaster" (a Scion xB); DYNO(!) tests revealed a whopping 1 HP increase. Almost too small to even be repeatably measurable, and FAR too small to be felt by the butt-dyno.
It's funny that you should mention that. I remember one stock radio that I had that was a piece of crap, but I kept it for when I traded my truck in, but it was stolen. Lowlifes will still just about anything, even a crap radio that came with the 5.9. I had an idea who did it, but nothing beyond that. Pissed me off, because I had to take that no radio in the truck hit on trade in.
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Just noticed this, Cheezit- you have an avg post of 11.5 per day, that has to be worth some kind of recognition. I would like to thank you, even though I'm not down here as much anymore. Sorry for the hijack, carry on.
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Cheezit: didn't forget; just got beaten to the punch. Three POUNDS is a LOT of dirt.
Oiled filters should NEVER be used with a MAF meter; the filter oil coats and biases the sensor too far out of bounds.
IMNSHO, the primary purpose of CAI's is to lighten the wallet, not improve the vehicle's performance. I did some research for a friend who was hell-bent on buying one for his "toaster" (a Scion xB); DYNO(!) tests revealed a whopping 1 HP increase. Almost too small to even be repeatably measurable, and FAR too small to be felt by the butt-dyno.
Save your cash for more worthy upgrades. Ford knocked THIS ball out of the park from the factory.
Tex: Now you know why I've been going so crazy to get a factory Audiophile system in my truck. It's THAT good, and almost no theft potential.
-blaine
Oiled filters should NEVER be used with a MAF meter; the filter oil coats and biases the sensor too far out of bounds.
IMNSHO, the primary purpose of CAI's is to lighten the wallet, not improve the vehicle's performance. I did some research for a friend who was hell-bent on buying one for his "toaster" (a Scion xB); DYNO(!) tests revealed a whopping 1 HP increase. Almost too small to even be repeatably measurable, and FAR too small to be felt by the butt-dyno.
Save your cash for more worthy upgrades. Ford knocked THIS ball out of the park from the factory.
Tex: Now you know why I've been going so crazy to get a factory Audiophile system in my truck. It's THAT good, and almost no theft potential.
-blaine
Isn't that about a 50% increase on a Scion?
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I just removed the OEM air box and installed the Rousch box. It has a large K&N style air filter that is SO easy to remove. Nice box and easy to install but directions are a little lacking if you are not mechanically inclined. I like the box outlet line design better then the OEM box. Seems to turn the air better that would cause less turbulence around the MAS.
I personally like K&N filters. For normal street driving they are great and flow better. I drive a 1 mile gravel road every day to get to my house. When I installed the TAG I had to remove the air line from the turbo to the airbox. I checked all for dust build up and there was none. I wiped my hand inside the components and detected none. Next I took carb cleaner and sprayed the inlet lines collecting the run off in a container. No dirt. My turbo blades had no dirt build up on the leading edge as you would see if the air filter was not working properly. And with the CCV venting back into the inlet dust/dirt, if present, would stick to the lines like glue. Just my 2 cents worth!
OBTW - I installed a Turbo Air Guide from DPP about 2 months ago. Seat of the pants eval says it does give better low end throttle response. I put one on my ZO6 about a year ago to straighten the air before it enters the TB. I along with other ZO6 Vette owners noticed better off idle throttle response. That is the primary reason I got one for the X.
Turbo Air Guide - Ford More Air Flow, More Power, Increased Fuel Mileage, Greater Performance
DSMMH
I personally like K&N filters. For normal street driving they are great and flow better. I drive a 1 mile gravel road every day to get to my house. When I installed the TAG I had to remove the air line from the turbo to the airbox. I checked all for dust build up and there was none. I wiped my hand inside the components and detected none. Next I took carb cleaner and sprayed the inlet lines collecting the run off in a container. No dirt. My turbo blades had no dirt build up on the leading edge as you would see if the air filter was not working properly. And with the CCV venting back into the inlet dust/dirt, if present, would stick to the lines like glue. Just my 2 cents worth!
OBTW - I installed a Turbo Air Guide from DPP about 2 months ago. Seat of the pants eval says it does give better low end throttle response. I put one on my ZO6 about a year ago to straighten the air before it enters the TB. I along with other ZO6 Vette owners noticed better off idle throttle response. That is the primary reason I got one for the X.
Turbo Air Guide - Ford More Air Flow, More Power, Increased Fuel Mileage, Greater Performance
DSMMH
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I just removed the OEM air box and installed the Rousch box. It has a large K&N style air filter that is SO easy to remove. Nice box and easy to install but directions are a little lacking if you are not mechanically inclined. I like the box outlet line design better then the OEM box. Seems to turn the air better that would cause less turbulence around the MAS.
I personally like K&N filters. For normal street driving they are great and flow better. I drive a 1 mile gravel road every day to get to my house. When I installed the TAG I had to remove the air line from the turbo to the airbox. I checked all for dust build up and there was none. I wiped my hand inside the components and detected none. Next I took carb cleaner and sprayed the inlet lines collecting the run off in a container. No dirt. My turbo blades had no dirt build up on the leading edge as you would see if the air filter was not working properly. And with the CCV venting back into the inlet dust/dirt, if present, would stick to the lines like glue. Just my 2 cents worth!
OBTW - I installed a Turbo Air Guide from DPP about 2 months ago. Seat of the pants eval says it does give better low end throttle response. I put one on my ZO6 about a year ago to straighten the air before it enters the TB. I along with other ZO6 Vette owners noticed better off idle throttle response. That is the primary reason I got one for the X.
Turbo Air Guide - Ford More Air Flow, More Power, Increased Fuel Mileage, Greater Performance
DSMMH
I personally like K&N filters. For normal street driving they are great and flow better. I drive a 1 mile gravel road every day to get to my house. When I installed the TAG I had to remove the air line from the turbo to the airbox. I checked all for dust build up and there was none. I wiped my hand inside the components and detected none. Next I took carb cleaner and sprayed the inlet lines collecting the run off in a container. No dirt. My turbo blades had no dirt build up on the leading edge as you would see if the air filter was not working properly. And with the CCV venting back into the inlet dust/dirt, if present, would stick to the lines like glue. Just my 2 cents worth!
OBTW - I installed a Turbo Air Guide from DPP about 2 months ago. Seat of the pants eval says it does give better low end throttle response. I put one on my ZO6 about a year ago to straighten the air before it enters the TB. I along with other ZO6 Vette owners noticed better off idle throttle response. That is the primary reason I got one for the X.
Turbo Air Guide - Ford More Air Flow, More Power, Increased Fuel Mileage, Greater Performance
DSMMH
Too each his own, good luck.