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Originally Posted by 1975StroppeBaja
Wonder if he meant 32V? Didn't some of the Navigators have that engine? That could be interesting!
I agree. The 03-04 Mach 1's and 03-04 Cobra's as well as the Marauder's have 4V heads. They are great heads for boost - proven by the Cobra's.
 
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Might be better off with the 32V heads anyway and not have to mess with the variable cam timing of the 24V heads.

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Originally Posted by redford
That has more to do with matching the supercharger to the engine. A centrifugal supercharger is a positive displacement charger, just like a roots blower. Most don't provide a lot of bottom end boost because they are small and not driven fast enough at idle to make a difference.

Been doing some reading on this. There does seem to be a lot of options when it comes to roots style blower on a 5.4L for 2V, 3V and 24V heads. Also, there are a few companies making high flow 2V aluminum heads. I guess it just depends on your budget.

One thing does puzzle me a bit. What is a 24V engine, anyway? I have a 3V engine. 3X8=24, so what is the difference between a 3V engine and a 24V engine?
24V is my inability to do math... I'm used to V6's with 4 valves per cylinder... 32V my bad
 
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24V is my inability to do math... I'm used to V6's with 4 valves per cylinder... 32V my bad
No, not picking on you. I find a lot of references on the internet for 24V 5.4L Superchargers, like this one:

04–07' FORD 5.4L 24V PROCHARGER SUPERCHARGER SYSTEM

. I was just wondering if it is a different engine from the 3V 5.4L engine.
 
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No, not picking on you. I find a lot of references on the internet for 24V 5.4L Superchargers, like this one:

04–07' FORD 5.4L 24V PROCHARGER SUPERCHARGER SYSTEM

. I was just wondering if it is a different engine from the 3V 5.4L engine.
Yeah, it'll be cool if I can find an off-the-shelf roots or whipple kit for my truck, I really don't want to go centrifugal... if I'm putting my time and money into this, I won't settle for anything less than what I want, unless someone donates a procharger to the cause then I'll play with one of those
 
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I was under the impression the only 4v headed 5.4 was natural aspirated in the Lincolns. The 5.4's taller deck makes the intake manifold wider than the 4.6, so the 4.6 blower manifold will not work. This is where my research years ago led me.

I'm using Delta Forces (used to be call Sniper Inc)'s Special Forces software to write my tunes and their interface to upload it.

My thoughts on off-the-shelf would be to talk to kene bell and see if they can piece together an f150 5.4L lower manifold, a drive and then the v10 plenum+out. My thought is that they only make one drive case per displacement, so the 3.2 (or whatever your choice is) is the same drive for the 4.6L mustang and the v10. The difference comes in at the manifold to head and the plenum dump location. The little stuff like the intercooler's radiator, pump are probably the same, but may have different lengths tubes.
 
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I was under the impression the only 4v headed 5.4 was natural aspirated in the Lincolns. The 5.4's taller deck makes the intake manifold wider than the 4.6, so the 4.6 blower manifold will not work.
I'm pretty sure there are aftermarket companies out there that have adapted plates to mate 5.4's to 4.6's and vice versa. At least head/intake wise...
 
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My research was done when VT engines and Sullivan were creating new unthought of parts for mod motors. I'm behind the times, so it's entirely possible.
 
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4V 5.4L came both ways. The GT had a supercharged 4V engine.
 
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Another way to go, instead of going with multiple valve heads is to get a set of Trick Flow 2V heads.

Trick Flow® Twisted Wedge® 185 Cylinder Heads for Ford 4.6L/5.4L 2V - trickflow.com
 
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I can personally tell yall, after crunching the numbers I dont think this project will be happening this year... roughly 10K for everything I want! But here's the good yall have found for me:

This is possible, and it still is cheaper than a new truck!
 
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I hear ya. I need to get my second vehicle running, re-side my auto shop, then I can start piecing together my build. All it takes is money.
 
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All it takes is money.
You forgot time and patience!
 
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With enough money you don't need either. With enough money this could be your day job, and you could hire people with patience for when you exhaust yours.
 
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So after further looking into this, it may be in my best interest to build a 6.8L with a whipple and drop it in old blue. My thoughts are there is a larger aftermarket and more off-the-shelf parts. I don't really want a V10, because I know I can do more with 8 holes than most do with 10, but idk anymore. Thoughts?

Or should I just shelve this whole project and shoe horn a built 460 into the truck? I believe the 460 would be the cheapest route, but I don't know about compatibility issues
 


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