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Where in Anchorage did you find the Delo Elc? I'm in the Valley and I'm having a hell of a time.
There's a Crowley Petroleum in Palmer that sells Chevron Delo, if that helps.

Crowley Petroleum Distribution in Palmer, AK | 523 S Valley Way, Palmer, AK

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Would mixing 2 brands of ELC be bad?
 
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No. As long as they are both true OAT ELC's, it's ok.

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There's a Crowley Petroleum in Palmer that sells Chevron Delo, if that helps.

Crowley Petroleum Distribution in Palmer, AK | 523 S Valley Way, Palmer, AK

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Thanks Stewart, and Paul. Unfortunately they are closed till Tuesday. I did find some Zerex Extreme ELC at Napa for about $16. Is it worth waiting for the Chevron Delo, or go with the Zerex and get it done this weekend?
On a different note, what is your opinion on changing out my thermostat to a dieselsite 203 degree thermostat? Sure would be nice for quicker warmup during the winter months.
 
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No. As long as they are both true OAT ELC's, it's ok.

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It would be Chevron Delo and Shell Rotella ELC
 
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Any OAT ELC is good.

I prefer the Delo but I wouldn't hesitate to use any OAT ELC for my rig.

I also wouldn't worry about mixing any of the ELC's below with each other if a situation presented itself and I couldn't get the same stuff that I've already put in my rad.

CAT HD ELC
Fleetrite HD ELC (International's brand)
Rotella HD ELC
Prestone HD ELC
Zerex Extreme HD ELC
Chevron/Texaco/Delo ELC

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CASTROL HD ELC?

Originally Posted by Stewart_H View Post
Any OAT ELC is good.

I prefer the Delo but I wouldn't hesitate to use any OAT ELC for my rig.

I also wouldn't worry about mixing any of the ELC's below with each other if a situation presented itself and I couldn't get the same stuff that I've already put in my rad.

CAT HD ELC
Fleetrite HD ELC (International's brand)
Rotella HD ELC
Prestone HD ELC
Zerex Extreme HD ELC
Chevron/Texaco/Delo ELC

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G'day Stewart,
I use Castrol Lubricants in the truck. RX Super 15w40 in donk, TransMax 'Z' in 4R100, TX Case & Steering, Castrol Gear Oil etc.
So reckon I'll go with their Coolant if it is suitable. From my reading of the specs it seems to be pretty good. What is your opinion of this Coolant.
Castrol products are very readily available over here in Aussie.

Cheers,
Reg.

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Originally Posted by Diesel Submariner View Post
G'day Stewart,
I use Castrol Lubricants...So reckon I'll go with their Coolant if it is suitable.
From my reading of the specs it seems to be pretty good. What is your opinion of this Coolant.
G'day, DS!

From the info you've provided, the coolant in question is an OAT ELC. Just do a complete flush of your system, with the last couple steps being a flush with distilled water, then refill with the concentrate form of coolant, not the 50/50 mix.

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G'day, DS!

From the info you've provided, the coolant in question is an OAT ELC. Just do a complete flush of your system, with the last couple steps being a flush with distilled water, then refill with the concentrate form of coolant, not the 50/50 mix.

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G'day Stewart,

So the stuff is good to go with.
However you recommend I get it in the 100% concentrated form.
But I would still have to mix it myself for a 50/50 final concentration right?
Besides 'not' being a cost effective way to go, is there any other draw back with using this coolant (or any other) in the already 50/50 form?

Thank you, I appreciate your knowledge & experience.

Cheers,
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Since there are FleetPrides all over the country, I'd like to add their offering to this list:

http://primabrands.com/marketing-lit...nt/PTC1192.pdf

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Originally Posted by Diesel Submariner View Post
However you recommend I get it in the 100% concentrated form.
But I would still have to mix it myself for a 50/50 final concentration right?
Besides 'not' being a cost effective way to go, is there any other draw back with using this coolant (or any other) in the already 50/50 form?
Since you'll never get all the water completely out of the block when flushing it....

.... and since your cooling system takes eight gallons of coolant, total, ....

....then you dump FOUR gallons of 100% into the system, then top off with about three more gallons (or whatever) of distilled (plus the one gallon, or whatever, still in there) and you get eight gallons of 50/50.

Kapeesh?

Keep a gallon of the 50/50 around for the occasional "top-off".

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Since you'll never get all the water completely out of the block when flushing it....

.... and since your cooling system takes eight gallons of coolant, total,

Then you dump FOUR gallons of 100% into the system, then top off with about three more gallons (or whatever) of distilled (plus the one gallon still in there) and you get eight gallons of 50/50.

Kapeesh?

Keep a gallon of the 50/50 around for the occasional "top-off".

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G'day Pop,

Kapeesh

Cheers,
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G'day back atcha'!

'Cept it's NIGHT here!

G'night!

Hahahahahaha!

All's good! At least the firing order remains the same, 'cause everything else under the hood looks somewhat reversed to me!

Jus' funnin' ya'!

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G'day back atcha'!

'Cept it's NIGHT here!

G'night!

Hahahahahaha!

All's good! At least the firing order remains the same, 'cause everything else under the hood looks somewhat reversed to me!

Jus' funnin' ya'!

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No worries Mate,

G'nite, take care.

Cheers,
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Stewart,

Been doing a lot of research on this whole SCA business and feel comfortable with the basic premise, but I have a question: there appears to be two competing assertions regarding when an ELC can be used in the 7.3. One says only 2002 and later model engines, the other says anything after early 1999 and later model engines. Premature wear of the seals and gaskets being the reason why, as has been documented. Some even claim to run ELC in their IDIs! It almost seems like it's a depends-on-who-you-talk-to kind of thing.

So anyway, the question: is there any definitive word as to when (ergo beginning with which engine manufacture year, and as I recall there is a specific engine serial number that begins the ELC era) you can use an ELC in your 7.3?

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