Anyone who OWNS a 6.7, Problems??
#151
Yes, time will tell if this 6.7 will be reliable! Vehicles are terrible investments, but when they require monies beyond the initial capital used to purchase them its even worse! We all buy diesels to accomplish tasks and last a long time while also being reliable. If you spend thousands to purchase and thousands to repair, in some cases before the vehicle is even paid for that's just terrible. I own my current diesel 6.0 free and clear but will need to drop an additional 3 to 5k to get it to go 300K miles? I shouldn't have to do that! I'd take 100 less horsepower if it gained 150K trouble free miles! I hope Ford has stepped up in the reliabilty category with this 6.7! I won't take my hard earned money and gamble it on another Ford Diesel until I see evidence of long term/high mileage reliability!!
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#153
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I don't think we can assume anything.
We cannot assume that Ford learned anything from the problems with the 6.0. Nor can we assume that learning anything would prevent another blunder.
We cannot assume that having been burned by a 6.0 once, means that you will get burned again. Not even by another 6.0, and certainly not by another generation of engine.
We cannot assume that the extensive testing Ford claims to have done, will mean anything for real world owners.
The only thing we can assume is that time will tell the tale. And that is what the OP is asking. It's probably too soon to know much, but then we cannot assume that either.
We cannot assume that Ford learned anything from the problems with the 6.0. Nor can we assume that learning anything would prevent another blunder.
We cannot assume that having been burned by a 6.0 once, means that you will get burned again. Not even by another 6.0, and certainly not by another generation of engine.
We cannot assume that the extensive testing Ford claims to have done, will mean anything for real world owners.
The only thing we can assume is that time will tell the tale. And that is what the OP is asking. It's probably too soon to know much, but then we cannot assume that either.
#154
The deciding factor for me, besides the fact it's a helluva truck, when I chose to buy this truck, was that Ford can't play the blame game with this one. It is their name on this project, and theirs alone. They are solely responsible for it's success or failure. I am confident they will stand behind their product and their response to issues so far, from what I have read, is supporting my decision.
#155
Here's what I know from a conversation with the Service Manager from a large Ford dealer in ATL (there are actually about four major dealers). This guy came to buy my V10 tonight and I found this out. He had absolutely no skin in the game, he could care less which I bought and he's too far away for me to consider his dealership for work anyway.
I said "I'm buying a 2010 6.4 or 2011 6.7 tomorrow, which one should I get"? He said without a doubt the 6.7L, Ford has done a lot of work on this engine. He's seen all the real testing first hand (like I said he's pretty high up on the pecking order with Ford SE region). Some of his technicians already have the 6.7's and love them, he said they haven't had anything of major consequence with the 6.7's.
I asked what if I get the 6.4 and do the mods with dpf and tune it to stop regen and get more power? He said he still wouldn't do it. He's looked at the design and says it's so much better it wouldn't be worth it. I think he said 6.4 has 4 bolts per cyl and 6.7 has 6 bolts.
I said "well what about getting rid of the DEF on the 6.7"? He said the kits are already out there, one of his techs already did it to his.
Am I a little concerned, sure, but now I have no truck!! I've got to buy one or the other Monday or Tuesday at the latest. I'm going with the 6.7 unless the world almost ends tomorrow.
I said "I'm buying a 2010 6.4 or 2011 6.7 tomorrow, which one should I get"? He said without a doubt the 6.7L, Ford has done a lot of work on this engine. He's seen all the real testing first hand (like I said he's pretty high up on the pecking order with Ford SE region). Some of his technicians already have the 6.7's and love them, he said they haven't had anything of major consequence with the 6.7's.
I asked what if I get the 6.4 and do the mods with dpf and tune it to stop regen and get more power? He said he still wouldn't do it. He's looked at the design and says it's so much better it wouldn't be worth it. I think he said 6.4 has 4 bolts per cyl and 6.7 has 6 bolts.
I said "well what about getting rid of the DEF on the 6.7"? He said the kits are already out there, one of his techs already did it to his.
Am I a little concerned, sure, but now I have no truck!! I've got to buy one or the other Monday or Tuesday at the latest. I'm going with the 6.7 unless the world almost ends tomorrow.
#156
Dang it, forgot a big factor he said. He said "if Ford's new engine has issues then they may lose the truck market for good, they aren't going to let that happen". He also said "Ford has already lost some of the market because of the issues with 6.0 and 6.4. This engine has been designed and tested like nothing he's ever seen before".
#157
#158
We have a fleet of Dodge trucks and the cummins start getting blow by at 100k miles! There is on in the shop now getting a new/ used engine in it because its so bad. These trucks are not what people make them out to be, at least from what we are seeing in them. Now the gas engines are lasting in the 300k miles. Even the head mechanic said over time the gas engine is better than the diesel because they just really dont last longer than the gas engines do these days. Much cheaper to maintain as well.
#159
#161
*** Problem #1 (for me)***
2011 F250 CC SB FX4 4x4 - less than 900mi.
the rubber seal/boot on the front part of the rear driveshaft is cracked and falling apart.... not sure why or what would cause this other than just cheap quality of the part. It would appear to be a dust seal as it is not leaking anything.
Just wonder if this is going to be a two day fix or an hour fix... I hate sitting at the dealer waiting on the service dept.
Hopefully other seals and dust boots are of a better quality...
2011 F250 CC SB FX4 4x4 - less than 900mi.
the rubber seal/boot on the front part of the rear driveshaft is cracked and falling apart.... not sure why or what would cause this other than just cheap quality of the part. It would appear to be a dust seal as it is not leaking anything.
Just wonder if this is going to be a two day fix or an hour fix... I hate sitting at the dealer waiting on the service dept.
Hopefully other seals and dust boots are of a better quality...
#162
If you don't mind, please take pictures and post them of the cracked seal. That way others can compare their seal to yours for any future problems.
#163
#164
Here's what I know from a conversation with the Service Manager from a large Ford dealer in ATL (there are actually about four major dealers). This guy came to buy my V10 tonight and I found this out. He had absolutely no skin in the game, he could care less which I bought and he's too far away for me to consider his dealership for work anyway.
I said "I'm buying a 2010 6.4 or 2011 6.7 tomorrow, which one should I get"? He said without a doubt the 6.7L, Ford has done a lot of work on this engine. He's seen all the real testing first hand (like I said he's pretty high up on the pecking order with Ford SE region). Some of his technicians already have the 6.7's and love them, he said they haven't had anything of major consequence with the 6.7's.
I asked what if I get the 6.4 and do the mods with dpf and tune it to stop regen and get more power? He said he still wouldn't do it. He's looked at the design and says it's so much better it wouldn't be worth it. I think he said 6.4 has 4 bolts per cyl and 6.7 has 6 bolts.
I said "well what about getting rid of the DEF on the 6.7"? He said the kits are already out there, one of his techs already did it to his.
Am I a little concerned, sure, but now I have no truck!! I've got to buy one or the other Monday or Tuesday at the latest. I'm going with the 6.7 unless the world almost ends tomorrow.
I said "I'm buying a 2010 6.4 or 2011 6.7 tomorrow, which one should I get"? He said without a doubt the 6.7L, Ford has done a lot of work on this engine. He's seen all the real testing first hand (like I said he's pretty high up on the pecking order with Ford SE region). Some of his technicians already have the 6.7's and love them, he said they haven't had anything of major consequence with the 6.7's.
I asked what if I get the 6.4 and do the mods with dpf and tune it to stop regen and get more power? He said he still wouldn't do it. He's looked at the design and says it's so much better it wouldn't be worth it. I think he said 6.4 has 4 bolts per cyl and 6.7 has 6 bolts.
I said "well what about getting rid of the DEF on the 6.7"? He said the kits are already out there, one of his techs already did it to his.
Am I a little concerned, sure, but now I have no truck!! I've got to buy one or the other Monday or Tuesday at the latest. I'm going with the 6.7 unless the world almost ends tomorrow.