460 or 360/390
#1
460 or 360/390
I have a 70 f250 with a 360 that runs ok, but will need to be rebuilt.
I'm looking down the line on a replacing the 360 with a 460. The questions I have are;
1) Should I build up the 360 to a 390 (if possible) or just go with the 460?
2) Will my C6 bolt right up? Do I need a different bell housing?
3) Will I need to make a driveshaft mod (shorter/longer)?
Any other things to make the switch 360 to 460?
Thanx in advance
Dano
I'm looking down the line on a replacing the 360 with a 460. The questions I have are;
1) Should I build up the 360 to a 390 (if possible) or just go with the 460?
2) Will my C6 bolt right up? Do I need a different bell housing?
3) Will I need to make a driveshaft mod (shorter/longer)?
Any other things to make the switch 360 to 460?
Thanx in advance
Dano
#2
Dano, rebuilding your current engine to a 390 will give you the best bang for the buck.
The 385 series 460 is from a different engine family and about nothing swaps between it and the FE series.
You will need engine perches, engine with everything attached, tranny, and prolly a few other things.
guluk
John
The 385 series 460 is from a different engine family and about nothing swaps between it and the FE series.
You will need engine perches, engine with everything attached, tranny, and prolly a few other things.
guluk
John
#3
while i do love 460's, i have had some fe's and liked them alot. i would go the 390 route any day of the week, more straightforward of a project. you didn't say if you had a 2x or 4x4, but finding a divorced t-case for a 335-385 bellhousing pattern isn't that easy, and could take a while if you have a 4x4
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#6
Keep Your Engine
I agree with these guys. I did swap to a 460 (which I love) but I started with a seized 6 cyl. If you consider all the time and money you'll spend making the 460 fit, you would be better off spending the money on some goodies for your FE. You'll have your truck back on the road alot quicker, and with less headaches.
#7
for those of you with 390's, are most of you running carbs or fuel injected? I'm getting ready to start a restoration, and I live in Phoenix. So long drives are the norm. This isnt going to be an everyday driver, but I don't want to have to take out a loan for a weekend gettaway to the lake either.
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Thanks
Stunts
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Thanks
Stunts
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#9
A divorced transfer case has zero contact with the bellhousing. The transmission bolts to the bellhousing and a divorced transfer case is separate from the transmission (divorced: get it?). They are connected by a short driveshaft.
#10
for those of you with 390's, are most of you running carbs or fuel injected? I'm getting ready to start a restoration, and I live in Phoenix. So long drives are the norm. This isnt going to be an everyday driver, but I don't want to have to take out a loan for a weekend gettaway to the lake either.
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Thanks
Stunts
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Thanks
Stunts
More power from an FE engine but if FI is on your mind I'd recommend the W. You can also get OD with that setup.
John
#11
Ahhh, Mr Monkey,
You have hit on a key point:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkee
for those of you with 390's, are most of you running carbs or fuel injected? I'm getting ready to start a restoration, and I live in Phoenix. So long drives are the norm. This isnt going to be an everyday driver, but I don't want to have to take out a loan for a weekend gettaway to the lake either.
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Any FE and the phrase "Fuel Mileage" do not belong in the same sentence! That being said, an FE is a great engine and if I were going to upgrade a 360, I would skip right past 390 by stroking it to a stump pulling 410. Then, if I could afford it, I would buy an adapter kit ($900 +/-) to put an overdrive transmission in it. A good fuel injected 351W with a manual or automatic overdrive would be much less expensive and more fuel friendly, but the stumps you pull with it will be much smaller.
HTH,
Gene
You have hit on a key point:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkee
for those of you with 390's, are most of you running carbs or fuel injected? I'm getting ready to start a restoration, and I live in Phoenix. So long drives are the norm. This isnt going to be an everyday driver, but I don't want to have to take out a loan for a weekend gettaway to the lake either.
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Any FE and the phrase "Fuel Mileage" do not belong in the same sentence! That being said, an FE is a great engine and if I were going to upgrade a 360, I would skip right past 390 by stroking it to a stump pulling 410. Then, if I could afford it, I would buy an adapter kit ($900 +/-) to put an overdrive transmission in it. A good fuel injected 351W with a manual or automatic overdrive would be much less expensive and more fuel friendly, but the stumps you pull with it will be much smaller.
HTH,
Gene
Last edited by 68horses; 05-22-2010 at 05:33 PM. Reason: Correction
#12
sorry, typo. i meant divorced tranny, because they are different than the 2x4 and 4x4 trannys.
#13
Ahhh, Mr Monkey,
You have hit on a key point:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkee
for those of you with 390's, are most of you running carbs or fuel injected? I'm getting ready to start a restoration, and I live in Phoenix. So long drives are the norm. This isnt going to be an everyday driver, but I don't want to have to take out a loan for a weekend gettaway to the lake either.
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Any FE and the phrase "Fuel Mileage" do not belong in the same sentence! That being said, an FE is a great engine and if I were going to upgrade a 360, I would skip right past 390 by stroking it to a stump pulling 410. Then, if I could afford it, I would buy an adapter kit ($900 +/-) to put an overdrive transmission in it. A good fuel injected 351W with a manual or automatic overdrive would be much less expensive and more fuel friendly, but the stumps you pull with it will be much smaller.
HTH,
Gene
You have hit on a key point:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkee
for those of you with 390's, are most of you running carbs or fuel injected? I'm getting ready to start a restoration, and I live in Phoenix. So long drives are the norm. This isnt going to be an everyday driver, but I don't want to have to take out a loan for a weekend gettaway to the lake either.
I also want to convert from my tractor trani to an automatic or a manual that I can actually use 1st gear.
If I wanted the best bang for buck out of fuel milage, what would YOU want?
a 390 combo? 351?
Any FE and the phrase "Fuel Mileage" do not belong in the same sentence! That being said, an FE is a great engine and if I were going to upgrade a 360, I would skip right past 390 by stroking it to a stump pulling 410. Then, if I could afford it, I would buy an adapter kit ($900 +/-) to put an overdrive transmission in it. A good fuel injected 351W with a manual or automatic overdrive would be much less expensive and more fuel friendly, but the stumps you pull with it will be much smaller.
HTH,
Gene
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to go all sissy with it. But here in Phoenix we don't pull many stumps.
With those ideas in mind though. . .I did just realize that I may very well want to go to the sand dunes! SO if I cant get FI with a FE motor, with a 351 have enough gusto to drag a truck that heavy around the dunes?
Also, if I did go with a 351, do you have any drivetrain suggestions?
I'm getting addicted to this already
#14
the sequence should be motor, bellhousing, 4x2 (2wd) trans, driveshaft,T-case.
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