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Old May 7, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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Getting my A/C going

Well, now that its running I am fixing the smaller stuff.
A/C is next on my list, and it has two problems.

First is that the evaporator is bad. I have most of the stuff infront of it pulled, but it feels like something is holding it togather that I can't see. Do I need to pull the fender liner, is it hiding bolts?

The other thing is doing the R12 to R134a swap. I have the fittings to do it, and all the proper tools to charge it. Is there any other step, or do I just put the R134a adapters on and then do it like it was that way from the factory?

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Old May 7, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Can't help on the evaporator, but I have converted several systems to R134. I get the conversion kit from NAPA. It contains everything needed to do the system. It has one can of oil charge, and 2 cans of 134. Being the evaporater is bad and you are going to be opening the system, you will need to vaccume the system to remove the moisture.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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I have oil and a 30 lb can of R134a on hand, plus the manifold gauges and vacuum pump.
I spent $10.99 on the fittings, is there anything else in the kit that I don't have and need?
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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Seals and o-rings ...

Good A/C Thread

-Enjoy
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Old May 7, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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whatevertheheck you call the inline filter, that you have to use the quick disconect tools to get out, that is right next to the firewall... cant recall the name of it, but it comes in red or blue... need to change it out... also dont hurt to blow eack of th elines out with a compressor...
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Thanks for the link.
I'm planning on O rings too.

EDIT:jmmartin, I'll get the orifice tube.
I am also going to get a heater hose shut off.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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What about removing the evaporator? Thats the next step.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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The evaporator is held in place by the pastic cover (you probably know that though)

That plastic cover has several screws holding it in place and is sealed with a black goop.

However, there is one screw that isn't visible. Its underneath and accessible from the inside of the cab. 10MM if I remember right.

Thats how it is on my 1986 and yours should still be the same. Been a while since I did mine so I hope thats correct.

Once the plastic cover comes off, the evaporator comes off. Its not held in by anything else other than some goop.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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I took my ac not working as a sign its time to build an on board air setup

and if the condesor holds pressure it can be a tranny cooler
 
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Originally Posted by David85
The evaporator is held in place by the pastic cover (you probably know that though)

That plastic cover has several screws holding it in place and is sealed with a black goop.

However, there is one screw that isn't visible. Its underneath and accessible from the inside of the cab. 10MM if I remember right.

Thats how it is on my 1986 and yours should still be the same. Been a while since I did mine so I hope thats correct.

Once the plastic cover comes off, the evaporator comes off. Its not held in by anything else other than some goop.
Thanks David. What about putting it back in. Do I have to replace to black goop?
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by peruses
I took my ac not working as a sign its time to build an on board air setup
How? What did you do?

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and if the condesor holds pressure it can be a tranny cooler
I have a 5 speed, so I don't have use for one.

With the E4OD and 4R100 you have to be careful, you can over cool them.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Thanks David. What about putting it back in. Do I have to replace to black goop?
Ideally yes, but I don't know where you would get it. I heard you can go to a plumbing shop and ask for something called "bear *****". I can't admit to actually asking for something like that however.....for obvious reasons lol.

Most any sealer will do but you don't want anything that is very perminant in case it has to be opened again. You can use some single sided closed cell foam tape if thats easier to find. That would also be more serviceable.

All you really have to seal here is against air. The air box is filled with positive pressure by the blower fan as opposed to vaccum so any leaks will not cause engine emissions to enter the cab. Air velocity at the vents will take a slight hit if the leaks are bad enough though.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Sounds like a job for gasket maker then. Thanks, I'll post back as I do it.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Go to a NAPA store and ask for DUM-DUM {no not the clerk},it comes in a roll. Its sticky and almost tar like and wil seal without getting hard. Part # 4424 pro strip caulk is the real name for it
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
How? What did you do?



I have a 5 speed, so I don't have use for one.

With the E4OD and 4R100 you have to be careful, you can over cool them.
the ac compressor is an awsome compressor you just add an oiler to the inlet side an oil seperator to the outlet side and then plumb to an air tank hardest part is finding somewhere to stick a good sized air tank. You do need to keep an eye on the oil supply and the seperator/filter, but for emergency use, lets just say its nice bein able to use a half inch impact roadside sometimes

good for you

no worries don't think you can overcool a C6
 
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