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Old 05-03-2014, 12:10 PM
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I love my 300, but these new 6.7 diesels blow all trucks and motors out of the water.
A tune and exhaust and a few deletes and they see 1000ftlbs.
That's power to haul anything and speed to go fast really quick.
Yea but you could run a dozen 300's for the price of that 6.7!!
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If your good, about 45!
Base price for 6.7 is about 45k.

But soooo worth it...ugh have you even seen a lifted platinum f350?
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I was just referring to the engine! I was still a little low.

New trucks are nice, but way too complicated & expensive. There's a reason I'm building a 54 F100. I also own a 91 F-Superduty with a 7.3L IDI and a 89 E350. The 89 has a 5.8L EFI engine and I'm actually considering swapping in a carbed 300!

And trucks lifted, more then 4", don't really do anything for me.
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Ja, no worries to find a '96 F250 Powerstroke with reasonable miles for ~$5,000 here in DFW land. Pulling a 10,000 lb trailer it'd probably beat a 300 to Laredo by two hours. Could you imagine how much of a tank the Bronco would be with 800 lb/ft of torque? If I ever win the Lottery...
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Thrice the power, thrice the weight though...
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I've pulled a 10,000 pound trailer with a 300. Hell I've pulled a 10,000 pound trailer with a 302. Neither had any issue doing the speed limit unless there was a big hill.

Diesels are nice but when they have problems you better have some deep pockets. I've hauled a lot of vehicles with gas powered trucks/vans ( most with 351 or smaller engine ) . I've hauled everything from a VW rabbit ( even two at a time ) to a F600. Never once have I not been able to haul one because my engine didn't have enough power.

Now if I was hauling stuff commercially then I'd have a diesel under the hood.
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Will the 300 fit in a '63 F100? do the timing covers interchange? bell housing? Do all of the 6's use the same timing covers and rear engine mounts? "At the risk of being redundant"!

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The 240 cu in (3.9 L) six for 1963 - 1970 full sized cars (continued to 74 in fleet models ) and 63 - 77 trucks produced 150 hp (112 kW).
I realize this is a 7 year old thread, but the above info (typed 4/25/2010) is BS!

240 I-6 introduced in 1965, used thru 1972 in Galaxie/LTD; thru 1974 in Econolines and trucks. No Galaxie/LTD came with an I-6 after 1972.

Ford confusion: The J engine code (4th digit of the VIN) was used for the 223 I-6 in 1961/64 trucks, but it was also used for the 240 I-6 in 1965 trucks and Econolines.

The VIN engine code for 1966/74 240 I-6 trucks & Econolines: A
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Will the 300 fit in a '63 F100? do the timing covers interchange? bell housing? Do all of the 6's use the same timing covers and rear engine mounts? "At the risk of being redundant"!

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It will physically fit, but is not a bolt in swap. Like NumberDummy said the 240/300 wasn't in vehicles before 65. Your 63 would of had a 223 if it was a 6 cylinder. And the 223 shares nothing with the 240/300's.

If you want to swap a 300 in, so it looks factory you would have to hunt down a front mount assembly and bellhousing out of a big grain truck that had a 300. These parts aren't super easy to find. But with a lot of searching you might be able to find them.

If you want to do the swap with some easier to find parts. You can use the Trans-dapt brand Ford FE V8 engine swap crossmember ( Trans-Dapt Part # 4037 ) with some 65-79 300 fullsize truck motor mounts.

But you would also have to swap in a different transmission and make or use an aftermarket transmission crossmember.
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It will physically fit, but is not a bolt in swap. Like NumberDummy said the 240/300 wasn't in vehicles before 65. Your 63 would of had a 223 if it was a 6 cylinder. And the 223 shares nothing with the 240/300's.

If you want to swap a 300 in, so it looks factory you would have to hunt down a front mount assembly and bellhousing out of a 1965/79 F500/750 that had a 300.
Or, you could find one of these:
240/300/352: 1965 F100/250 4WD; 1965/66 F350; 1966 F250 4WD used the same engine mounting system as 1961/64 223/292.
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Can I just swap out the timing cover from my 223 to the other 6's? I am not following this pieced together info. The 4wd drive trucks had the front engine mount on the timing cover? Are there any images i could look at?
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223 timing cover is the same 1957/64 F100/600 & Passenger Cars.

You cannot use parts from a 223 on a 240 or 300, as the engines are completely different.

223/262 I-6: Intake/exhaust manifolds located on the left (drivers) side.

240/300 I-6: Intake/exhaust manifolds located on the right (passenger) side.
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Thank you for the info.
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They guy who said long bed trucks are real trucks. Just for thought. Long wheelbase trucks suck off-road. They bottom out easier and are more prone to sliding around corners. They are also more difficult to maneuver when backing trailers. A short bed truck is around better with 4x4 and towing aspects. The Long bed trucks are good for l9ading wood in the back of. Using bed campers and very few other little things. The only good long bed is a flatbed f250 or f350 and those trucks belong on asphalt
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I've read that longer wheel bases lend themselves to more-safe-and-stable higher towing ratings (everything else being equal) due to the leverage advantage beyond that of shorter wheelbases. To evidence what I've read and posted, I've noticed that the new tow-king of 1/2-tons is the 2018 F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost at or about 13,000 lbs; but almost any truck, power train combination is going to have a much lower tow rating. The only way to get the 13,000 tow rating is to choose the 3.L Ecoboost engine with a truck that is a 2WD, a Super Crew (aka crew cab) with the longest bed possible. In other words, you have to choose the most capable power train in the longest wheel base (156.8") and you have to choose 2WD. Only then can you get the advertised 13,000 pound tow rating. Most configurations, however, are 9,000 lbs or less.

But...This does not hold true for payload capacity, as it seems to lend itself to the opposite configuration (shorter wheel base the more load). To get to the payload champ, one has to chose the lighter and slightly more powered 5.0 in a standard cab and a in long bed, which is a shorter 141" wheel base.

Anyway there are pros and cons of short wheel base vs longer wheel bases, and most of it depends on what one wants out of their truck. Short wheel bases, especially in the lighter configurations, i.e std cab, 2WDs tend to have rear wheel hop a little worse and a little rougher ride, which I experience in my 2015 F150 that weighs only 4170 pounds but can tow 8,000 lbs; but I prefer it because I don't tow; don't need 8' of bad length very often, don't require a Cadillac-like ride in a truck, but the shorter truck makes it a little easier to park, etc; and maybe, possibly helps just a tad on FE; plus it was a little cheaper to buy, and some of us don't want more truck than what we need.

So my guess is that in the older trucks where standard cabs totally dominated; there were mostly choices of 8' beds and 6.5' beds, and that the long beds were better for heavy towing and the shorter beds were at least as good and carrying heavy loads, and as was previously stated, better for off-roading for those who prefer to use pickup trucks to ATVs for that purpose; but there are other factors to consider as well, which are mostly just customer preferences.
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