VIN background search advice
#1
VIN background search advice
Hi Guys,
My name's George, newbie here. I've come across a '62 Econoline Pick-up
but the present owner has no title, plates, registration. I told him if I can
get the VIN cleared he would have a deal.
The owner is a 70 y.o. guy who seems honest. Says he got the pickup
over 2 decades ago but never transferred the title. Now, he thinks the
original owner may not be alive or available to sign off the vehicle. The
present owner says he will back up my efforts with a Bill of Sale, or sign
any documents, etc.
So, now I am seeking advice on how to find the truth on this thing!
In looking at the archives I found this Econoline has a 'different' ID Plate.
(the Plate is riveted to the A-pillar door jamb and looks old/original) I have
pics to show if I could post.
Data:
E10SH245158
090 (big space) E103 A 02
03600 079 4000 1428
Unusual notes- seems like the original color is a bright orange
which I cannot find for any 1962 color chips. There looks like there
was never a passenger's seat. Body is surprisingly straight.
I'm in California if the DMV process is different for me here.
There is no engine but a 3-spd manual trans is there. (I have a 200 I-6
at home ready for a project.)
Great Forum here!
Thanks in advance,
George
My name's George, newbie here. I've come across a '62 Econoline Pick-up
but the present owner has no title, plates, registration. I told him if I can
get the VIN cleared he would have a deal.
The owner is a 70 y.o. guy who seems honest. Says he got the pickup
over 2 decades ago but never transferred the title. Now, he thinks the
original owner may not be alive or available to sign off the vehicle. The
present owner says he will back up my efforts with a Bill of Sale, or sign
any documents, etc.
So, now I am seeking advice on how to find the truth on this thing!
In looking at the archives I found this Econoline has a 'different' ID Plate.
(the Plate is riveted to the A-pillar door jamb and looks old/original) I have
pics to show if I could post.
Data:
E10SH245158
090 (big space) E103 A 02
03600 079 4000 1428
Unusual notes- seems like the original color is a bright orange
which I cannot find for any 1962 color chips. There looks like there
was never a passenger's seat. Body is surprisingly straight.
I'm in California if the DMV process is different for me here.
There is no engine but a 3-spd manual trans is there. (I have a 200 I-6
at home ready for a project.)
Great Forum here!
Thanks in advance,
George
#3
I've come across a '62 Econoline Pick-up but the present owner has no title, plates, registration. I told him if I canget the VIN cleared he would have a deal.
The owner is a 70 y.o. guy who seems honest. Says he got the pickup over 2 decades ago but never transferred the title. Now, he thinks the original owner may not be alive or available to sign off the vehicle.
The present owner says he will back up my efforts with a Bill of Sale, or sign any documents, etc. So, now I am seeking advice on how to find the truth on this thing!
In looking at the archives I found this Econoline has a 'different' ID Plate. (the Plate is riveted to the A-pillar door jamb and looks old/original) I have pics to show if I could post.
E10SH245158
090
(big space This is where the COLOR code should be. No code = the truck was painted by FoMoCo a non standard color.
With a non standard color, there will be no paint chip for it.
One possible reason why it's painted ORANGE and has no passenger side seat: The original purchaser could have been Cal-Trans [CA Dept of Transportation].
All Cal-Trans vehicles are painted ORANGE).
E103 A 02 // 03600 079 4000 1428
Unusual notes- seems like the original color is a bright orange which I cannot find for any 1962 color chips. There looks like therewas never a passenger's seat. Body is surprisingly straight.
The owner is a 70 y.o. guy who seems honest. Says he got the pickup over 2 decades ago but never transferred the title. Now, he thinks the original owner may not be alive or available to sign off the vehicle.
The present owner says he will back up my efforts with a Bill of Sale, or sign any documents, etc. So, now I am seeking advice on how to find the truth on this thing!
In looking at the archives I found this Econoline has a 'different' ID Plate. (the Plate is riveted to the A-pillar door jamb and looks old/original) I have pics to show if I could post.
E10SH245158
090
(big space This is where the COLOR code should be. No code = the truck was painted by FoMoCo a non standard color.
With a non standard color, there will be no paint chip for it.
One possible reason why it's painted ORANGE and has no passenger side seat: The original purchaser could have been Cal-Trans [CA Dept of Transportation].
All Cal-Trans vehicles are painted ORANGE).
E103 A 02 // 03600 079 4000 1428
Unusual notes- seems like the original color is a bright orange which I cannot find for any 1962 color chips. There looks like therewas never a passenger's seat. Body is surprisingly straight.
E10 = E100
S = 144 1V 1-6.
H = Lorain OH Assembly Plant *
245158 = 1962, assembled in December 1961.
090 = 90" Wheelbase
No COLOR code
E103 = E100 Pickup, 3,600 lbs. GVWR
A = Ford Light Duty 3 Speed Manual Transmission
02 = Ford Rear Axle / 4.00-1 / non Limited Slip / 2,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity
3,600 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
79 net HP @ 4,000 RPM
1428 = Domestic Special Order number. The original purchaser special ordered the truck, did not buy it "off the lot."
* All Econolines of this vintage sold in the US were assembled in Lorain OH.
Call the CA DMV's 800 number, run the VIN to see if there's any paperwork still remaining in the system.
DMV tossed out the paperwork back in those days after seven years had passed by, if the vehicle hadn't been registered during that span of time.
But...if the vehicle was reported stolen, DMV might still have the info. Do NOT buy it until you've cleared the registration!
#4
Hi GFW1985,
That's what I plan to do is call. Since our state is bankrupt, the DMV
is not open Fridays, Saturdays and never was open on Sundays. This
is true in our area anyways. I plan to call on monday.
I'll try to follow up with what they say on here as well.
Hi NumberDummy,
Makes sense, though we only had highways in California until the first
freeway opened in 1965 and Ronald Reagan started the forerunner
of CalTrans in 1972, I agree that whatever agency that did road work
probably special ordered the pickup. I was also thinking maybe an airport
would use something like that back in the early 60's ?
The color looks closest to "Safety Orange," a generic, or the 1962 Dodge
truck color "Omaha Orange" but toned down a bit.
I looked at another P/U today, this one has a title (but from Arizona) and
at least it drives. It was a '61 (E10TH278418, 090, F, E103, A, 01) but
it had a 200 I6 in it. Pretty peppy, I was surprised. My Falcons are not
that quick with good/solid 200's in them. My plan was to get a cheaper
engineless P/U like the first two I saw and use either a 200 I6 or 5.0L EFI
spares I got, oh well...
The '61 is driveable so of course he is asking almost 3 times as much for
it, making my decisions that much harder...
George
That's what I plan to do is call. Since our state is bankrupt, the DMV
is not open Fridays, Saturdays and never was open on Sundays. This
is true in our area anyways. I plan to call on monday.
I'll try to follow up with what they say on here as well.
Hi NumberDummy,
Makes sense, though we only had highways in California until the first
freeway opened in 1965 and Ronald Reagan started the forerunner
of CalTrans in 1972, I agree that whatever agency that did road work
probably special ordered the pickup. I was also thinking maybe an airport
would use something like that back in the early 60's ?
The color looks closest to "Safety Orange," a generic, or the 1962 Dodge
truck color "Omaha Orange" but toned down a bit.
I looked at another P/U today, this one has a title (but from Arizona) and
at least it drives. It was a '61 (E10TH278418, 090, F, E103, A, 01) but
it had a 200 I6 in it. Pretty peppy, I was surprised. My Falcons are not
that quick with good/solid 200's in them. My plan was to get a cheaper
engineless P/U like the first two I saw and use either a 200 I6 or 5.0L EFI
spares I got, oh well...
The '61 is driveable so of course he is asking almost 3 times as much for
it, making my decisions that much harder...
George
#5
Makes sense, though we only had highways in California until the first freeway opened in 1965 Huh?? and Ronald Reagan started the forerunner of CalTrans in 1972, I agree that whatever agency that did road work probably special ordered the pickup. I was also thinking maybe an airport would use something like that back in the early 60's?
The color looks closest to "Safety Orange," a generic, or the 1962 Dodge truck color "Omaha Orange" but toned down a bit.
I looked at another P/U today, this one has a title (but from Arizona) and at least it drives. It was a '61 (E10TH278418, 090, F, E103, A, 01) but it had a 200 I6 in it.
The 200 was swapped in, no 200's until 1964, and it was not installed in Econolines of this vintage (1961/67). T = 170 IV 1-6
Pretty peppy, I was surprised. My Falcons are not that quick with good/solid 200's in them. My plan was to get a cheaper engineless P/U like the first two I saw and use either a 200 I6 or 5.0L EFI spares I got, oh well. The '61 is driveable so of course he is asking almost 3 times as much forit, making my decisions that much harder.
The color looks closest to "Safety Orange," a generic, or the 1962 Dodge truck color "Omaha Orange" but toned down a bit.
I looked at another P/U today, this one has a title (but from Arizona) and at least it drives. It was a '61 (E10TH278418, 090, F, E103, A, 01) but it had a 200 I6 in it.
The 200 was swapped in, no 200's until 1964, and it was not installed in Econolines of this vintage (1961/67). T = 170 IV 1-6
Pretty peppy, I was surprised. My Falcons are not that quick with good/solid 200's in them. My plan was to get a cheaper engineless P/U like the first two I saw and use either a 200 I6 or 5.0L EFI spares I got, oh well. The '61 is driveable so of course he is asking almost 3 times as much forit, making my decisions that much harder.
I was one of the first to drive (in a 1950 Olds 88) the 405 the day it opened. Back then traffic was light. Today, it's the world's longest parking lot.
The Hollywood Freeway opened in the late 1950's. I don't recall when the Santa Monica Freeway (I-10) opened, but it was over 30 years ago.
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