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351w and C6 for 420ci and 4/5 speed auto..

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351w and C6 for 420ci and 4/5 speed auto..

so im gonna do a swamp from my 351 Windsor with a C6 4x4 trans to the 420 CI diesel with a 4 or 5 speed auto/ manual trans that hooks up to my transfer case..im gonna do this when i find a diesel motor from 1983 or newer that will fit in that gen truck..and im looking for a price range for everything and how hard will it be?? im gonna do all the work myself and a friend is gonna help..
 
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Buy a donor diesel pickup. Or you might decide to put a cummins setup in the truck. A lot of people do it.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Buy a donor diesel pickup. Or you might decide to put a cummins setup in the truck. A lot of people do it.
I'm not trying to criticize, just understand....

So, what's the point? The 6.9 was a great motor, but it's not exactly a powerhouse and if ya wanna feel how sluggish your truck will be just pull two plug wires on that 351.

Don't get me wrong, my family has had two 1 tons with 6.9's and they both ended up having over half a million miles on them. But If I was spending the time and money to swap a motor in my truck the 6.9 would literally be last on the list. I'd put a 300 in before it. At the very least put a 7.3 in it.
 
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The 86 and newer 6.9 is superior to any other 6.9/7.3.

Not everybody likes to burn rubber, Some like to pull big loads and not rebuild every 150k miles.

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well i need a power-train setup thats able to pull 5,000 lbs as i tow my friends car to the track alot..and his car is 3500+ lbs..(subaru STi) and i LOVE diesels i love the sound, the power, the MPG lol everything. i just needs to figure out what i need to make the diesel fit in my truck..i rather have an 83-90 motor..what ever i dont have to use an ECU one...IF thats possible...
 
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I pull that twice a week to the track with my Nissan Quest ...

Ford Diesels Pre-Computers 83-94.5.

Gotta love Diesels.

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There is a complete running set up as you describe that just went into my local pull a part last week. I looked at it yesterday. It is lifted with triple shocks up front. It also has the diesel tach inside. Some of the 4wd stuff is gone from the front wheels.
 
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i dont need that axles or nothing..just a motor and trans that can bolt int omy truck and to my T-case..

but what would this setup cost roughly?
 
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It would be cheaper to get the whole truck. Then you can sell off what you don't need.
The diesel trucks with the heavy duty cooling(most have this) have a different radiator support for the extra large radiator.

They also have different motor mounts.

I believe the front frame crossmember might be a little different, but this might not be a deal breaker.

You will have some wiring to do for the glowplugs and a few other things, unless you have the other truck and get the wiring from it.
 
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ahh. ok, let me see what i can find around here...i have NO idea where to get a parts truck tho...
 
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Originally Posted by Chitownhillbilly
I'm not trying to criticize, just understand....

So, what's the point? The 6.9 was a great motor, but it's not exactly a powerhouse and if ya wanna feel how sluggish your truck will be just pull two plug wires on that 351.

Don't get me wrong, my family has had two 1 tons with 6.9's and they both ended up having over half a million miles on them. But If I was spending the time and money to swap a motor in my truck the 6.9 would literally be last on the list. I'd put a 300 in before it. At the very least put a 7.3 in it.
If you want a diesel to play with and buy lots of stuff from the magazines and install on it to make more power, don't buy one of these older engines. If you want a reliable engine that will pull a load all day long and get decent fuel mileage, these engines are the secret to that.

True, unloaded, my 7.3 had about the same acceleration as my other truck that had a 351w. Throw a full load of firewood in the back, and it was a different story. If you decide later to put a turbo on it, then you start really towing with some speed. As original though, the other poster is correct, even with a 5000 load, you will be a little slow going up the hills.

But as was mentioned also, I just like the diesel engine. The hardest part about it is getting it started, but once you learn all the ins and outs about that, it's a pretty good engine.
 
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im not one to go into to "go fast" mode in my truck lol its 27 years old of HARD work, it deserves to be babied...i wanna make it a dually also..maybe i could find someone that would trade a parts truck for the rear axle? lol
 
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Originally Posted by '83f3fiddy
im not one to go into to "go fast" mode in my truck lol its 27 years old of HARD work, it deserves to be babied...i wanna make it a dually also..maybe i could find someone that would trade a parts truck for the rear axle? lol
This is becoming a no brainer. You need to find a dually diesel donor. You can then hunt up the adapters to fit the dually wheels on the front 4wd axle.
 
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there are no donar trucks for cheap around me...
 
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I"d consider selling your truck and buying a diesel dually, you'd probably have the same $$ tied up and less headaches
 

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