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Old 03-31-2010, 11:33 PM
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TYPES OF DOVE HEADS

Anybody know how many different variations of DOVE heads Ford produced and what is the size of the CC, valve sizes??
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They aren't DOVE heads. It's D -ZERO- VE. It's a date code / casting number. It's just a pure coincidence that it spells "d0ve" So, in that respect...there are NO variations. A different head would have a different number.
 
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so all d0ve heads are d0ve C? Do u know what the cc chamber sizes are and intake/exhaust sizes?? Are all d0ve heads closed chamber?
 
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There are -A and -C variations. But they are mostly identical. In 72, the name changed to d2ve. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure what the specs are. But it's not too hard to google.
 
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The book I have shows the Dove heads with a 75.8 cc. The heads after that went up to 91.4, then 96.2. Valve size Intake 2.084 exhaust 1.653 The police and cobra jet are bigger valves with a 73.5 cc head.
 
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What are you planning on doing with this engine? I drive my 70 429 in my 75 truck to work sometimes and drive it down to Iowa 300 miles each way. I left the dove heads off and bought larger chambered aluminum heads. I can run 87 octane fuel and I still have decent power. It lowered the compression to around 9 to 1. With the dove heads and flat tops pistons you would be running 11 to 1. If you are using it for off road or pulling, etc. Then this would be ideal. You would have to run high octane fuel. If you are just going to drive it I would go with the D3ve heads or aluminum. I don't know what the dove heads are worth. Mine are coated with grease sitting in the garage. I bought the whole car, 70 thunderbird for $225 and drove it home. But that was in 89. Don't know what you have for a block, motor. Might be able to find a whole motor or car for a decent price, watch craigs list, etc.
 
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well motor will be in my 77 F250 prerunner 2wd. Would drive on street as well as off road. So D3 heads are better to go with than D0VE? What kind of power is your motor making with the D3 heads?
 
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Originally Posted by HillbillyDeluxe81
They aren't DOVE heads. It's D -ZERO- VE. It's a date code / casting number. It's just a pure coincidence that it spells "d0ve" So, in that respect...there are NO variations. A different head would have a different number.
My vote for most worthless answer to any thread on fte ever.
 
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Originally Posted by hasteranger
My vote for most worthless answer to any thread on fte ever.
....It's a simple answer to a simple question. Any variation such as valve or chamber size would have A DIFFERENT CASTING NUMBER!! For example....Cobra Jet heads of the same year are cast d0oe-r. Police Interceptor heads are d2oe-ab. And when the chamber size was increased on the standard 429/460 head......the number changed to d3ve. It's not THAT hard to figure out....as long as you realize d0ve is a number....not a word.

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I think you would be much happier with the D3 heads. I have them on my 73 thunderbird. It weighs around 5500lbs and is longer than my truck. I can still burn the rear tires big time with it. The torgue is awesome. That way you can run the relatively cheaper gas too. They like alot of that. LOL. I don't know what the numbers are but my car with the D3 heads feels like it has more power than the truck with aluminum heads. The car is a 460 and the truck is a 429, both .030 over. There is that cubic inch diference and I still have some tweaking to do on my truck. I think I set the timing too retarded. Should have put it straight up. I used the cam degree wheel but It just loves lots of timing. But that is another story.
 
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what are the differences between the D3 and D0VE heads?
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Originally Posted by robjs111
what are the differences between the D3 and D0VE heads?
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The biggest difference is final compression, which in the end equals h/p. The d3 heads will allow you to run regular fuel, d0ve will require premium fuel only. d3's can be worked over to make some pretty good h/p, but you'll need to seek out someone who knows what they're doing.

Either set has press in studs (most of the ones you'll find at least). If you plan on running a big bumpstick, you'll need a machine shop to change them over to the screw in type.

Both sets have a 'bump' in the exhaust port that is quite restrictive. A die grinder and some grinding will go a long ways in helping them breathe.

It all depends on what you are expecting form your engine. d0ve heads are in demand (as it's an easy way to bump up the crappy compression on newer 460's), and prices reflect that. d3 can be found for next to nothing. You can do some work on the d3's yourself, save your self some cabbage, have a solid running 460, and all on reg pump fuel.
 
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I have a 69 460 in my 77 F250 4x4 and I run regular gas (85 octane) in it. I have never had ping or knock with it. I don't have my foot it much as I really don't need to, to make it roll. Just looking in a old Motor's book they list the 1968-70 at 10.5:1, 1971 at 10.2:1, 1972 at 8..50:1 and then the 1973 at 8.0:1 compression. Like DaytonaTunnel said 1973 is the start of the smog head. Grinding out the bump can make them breath well. Look and search in the engine section. I think a while back it was monsterbaby had a great right up on the 460 heads.
 
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Will do.

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