Hello guys, I need some ideas to get a hub nut out off my ATV. Basically, it’s a sports ATV and rear axel is bent. I put some penetrating lube etc…the right side just came off but the left one is not moving at all. The wheel starts to turn/slip (with one person sitting on the ATV with breaks on) with 2 foot breaker bar! Not sure what kinda of monumental moron installed this. I need to come up with some sort of tool to stop the axel shaft and hub from turning. Any ideas? The axel nut is 36 mm and I spent quite a bit on tools to take this off, so, I’m trying my best to not take it to a dealer.

 

Are you sure it's standard thread and not reverse?

 

how to find out? right side kinda just came off with out any struggle because the previous owner had worked on that end...

 

ok, let me check if it's reverse thread when I get home tonight.

 

That'd be my guess too.

 

If there's threads sticking out, try threading the other nut on or just run your fingernail around it to see which way the threads move it.

 

Doesn't the end of the bolt have an 'L' stamped on it if it's a reverse thread (for Left-hand)? That's what left handed wheel lug bolts have on 'em.

 

Some cars used to have left hand lug nuts that weren't always marked -- so you never know.

If you can't tell, I'd just give it a try -- probably can't make it any worse if it is RH.

 

ok, quick update; I inspected the thread pattern and it does not appear to be left hand thread. Clock wise is tightening and anti clockwise is to remove. So, with that out of the way, any ideas?

 

If you have access to one, a decent air impact wrench.
Or try soaking it in Kroll or similar for a couple of days.
Or heat to cherry red with a torch (never fails).

 

Damm, I know a shop close by, may be, they can help. So how much torque do you think I might have applied with two foot breaker? I was almost pushing the bar with my entire weight(135 Lbs). The bar was bending out of shape as well.
The manual says it needs 175foot pounds of torque.

 

Well 2ft X 135lbs is 270ft.lbs. of torque. A good air impact wrench will easily do 400ft.lbs. plus and the hammer action helps also.

 

Pardon my ignorance, by hammer action you mean ...?

 

Air impact not only imparts a 'twisting' motion, it 'hits' like a hammer to move/tighten/loosen a bolt/nut.
Hence. . . IMPACT.

(At least that's how it was explained to me.)



Suggestion: Place the wrench/breaker bar onto the nut, and have the breaker bar set-up in such a way that you can 'stand' on the bar, and use your full weight on it.
Have someone hold/support the wrench, then give it a quick 'pounce' with your foot. Kinda/sorta like trying to kick-start an old Harley. That MIGHT bounce the nut loose.

- OR -

Get a piece of steel (galvanized or 'black' pipe) and put over the breaker bar. You'll compound your leverage.
BE CAREFUL!!!!! I watched a guy SNAP some head bolts doing this.

USE CAUTION!!!!!!!!

 

Thanks All, I FINALLY got the bolt off on my own!!!!
I devised a plan, I took the bumper jack from my Jeep (it's 48 inches long metal rod) and you know it has holes that runs through the length? Well, I bolted the top end hole on to the wheel hub. Parked my other ATV on the jack’s bottom end. Started with the monkey business of standing and jumping on the breaker bar….My wife says, Dinner is ready and I should be getting back. But I wrench on…no luck for another 30 minutes. Finally my wife had it, she comes to the garage and looks at me jumping and getting frustrated. I decided to walk her through what I was doing and stood on the bar, bamp, it came loose! Damm you SOB NUT.