Numberdummy has some of the books for the F-600 up range of trucks, I'll give him a heads up.

 

On the Certification Label is the GVWR which refers to this: Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

The GVWR is actually a safety rating, as Ford says: If the GVWR is exceeded, the Warranty is void.

GVWR: The actual weight of the vehicle, the driver, any passengers and cargo should not exceed the GVWR.

The VIN will not have specs related to the GVWR. All it will have is F60 or something similar. These are the 4th thru 7th digits.

The MODEL code (when decoded) defines the GVWR, and is found on the bottom line of the Certification Label.

 

If this was a dump truck since the truck was new, the truck was sent to the body company from Ford as an incomplete vehicle. As such, Ford did not set the GCWR. The body company completed the vehicle and was responsible for installing the completed information sticker showing this information. Chances are that sticker is gone because the body companies were bad about using cheap stickers.

 

First, GCWR is going to be equal to GVWR of truck (16500) to GVWR of trailer (10000) = 26500. Doesn't matter if you only load 7k on the trailer.
Second, take your truck to your local Cat scales and get the actual weight on it. Subtract that from your 16500 GVWR and you'll know what your payload is.

 

The best I can remember about all F-600s can be registered for less than 26000 lbs
A lot of rental companies have them for weekend warriors without CDLs
The truck is capable of about 8 ton payload depending on state laws

 

Depending on what is done to the truck, the scale weight is about 5800 stock. However, you might want to take it over any scale. My F600 was modified. A hydraulic boom with a 30 foot reach and 4000 pound capacity was added, a 10 ton winch under the bed and the deck was shortened. I just picked it up for 3000 and will be going over a scale soon. But the way it drives it feels like it weighs about 10000. My ford F500 4bbl, 4sp trans, has a single speed axle. The deck was modified and lengthened so the whole truck empty weights 9960. ITs max is 16000.

 

Any personal vehicle, no matter what the weight is, does not require a CDL. The reason the State Patrol and other Law Enforcement Agencies are trying to enforce something that does not carry a law to support it, is to keep people who do not work for companies off the road. Also, the CDL allows the officers to stop you and pee test you any time they want. Inspect your vehicle without a search warrant and more unlawful activities. You do not need a DOT number on your truck unless you are a business and the truck is listed on your business. I drive any vehicle any size that is licensed to operate on any road without a CDL. Even Semi tractor. I operate with out a CDL.

 

Welcome to FTE.

Eric I think you need to do a little more research on the CDL. You can certainly drive what you want, but if you are driving a vehicle with a GVWR of 26001 or over, and you do not qualify for one of the several exemptions, you are required to have a CDL.

The thread you are commenting on is from 2010. Feel free to start your own thread either here or in any forum consistent with the subject you wish to address.

 

I am 55 years old and have done plenty of legal research. Where ever you have learned your part is great. Washington State the CDL requirement is now 16000 pounds. However, if you own these type of vehicles they assume you own a company and are forced to participate in the DOT number along with their Federal Safety what ever. As a personal owner of a 68 F700, a 1970 F500, a 78 F700F and a 83 F600 as well as a 62 Chevy 60....each over 16000 gross do not need a CDL. Commercial Drivers License is for Commercial purposes. Commercial consists of a company in which transports products for itself or other. However, there is a loophole in which, if you own these vehicles and the items you move on them is yours, for what ever reasons, you do not need a CDL. I have discussed this for several years with WASP and they lose. Every time. I have studied law for 6 years as a hobby and am not an attorney or paralegal. But I know what I am talking about. Such as Trump not paying taxes of several million. He says to Hillary...I took advantage of your loop hole. Like I said before, the only reason for a CDL is to invade your privacy, create another avenue for monetary gains and restrict the public from working as a free enterprise.

 

If the logs are yours and no matter what the weight is, you dont need a CDL. You really need to understand the difference in Commercial and non. Non is person owing the vehicles regardless of the weight capacity. Commercial is working, driving, being paid for a service. Not a person owning a commerical weight vehicle

 

I couldn't REP you again. It is evident this poster has a one track mind.

The claims that it invades privacy are absurd. In fact in a recent court decision the State Supreme Court wrote in their opinion that the defendant's argument was absurd. I giggled when I read that.

By the way, the regulations for hours of services, vehicle maintenance, driver qualifications start at 10,001 pounds. Oh, and the regulations includes hazmat requiring a placard or 8 more passengers. When I talk to drivers, especially those are obtaining their CDLs I remind them that they are professionals. When I contact them I expect them to act like professionals.