I never bought into any hype. I've just gotta ask, have you ever driven a Raptor?

 

Dont need to, I own a prerunner

 

The one in the second pictures?

 

Nope, I have a 97 F250 prerunner and a 2002 Supercrew Prerunner

 

I don't think there will be any large amount of warranty claims from Raptor users bashing their trucks. Face it, 90% of truck owners use their trucks as cars, and Ford knows it. Thats why all the new trucks have car like interiors/features and sit so low to the ground that they have to be modified to be used for anything other than towing. The Raptor is built for the other 10% of people who want a truck that looks like a truck and don't want the hassle to take a stock truck and void the warranty by modifying it with a bunch of aftermarket components. I think the Raptor is a design that is long overdue and it's success will open the door for other designs like it(Ford Bronco, or F250 BigHoss).

 

If my wallet was deeper I'd get one in a heartbeat as my second truck...

 

No more risk than someone buying a Cobra and running in HPDE events... What? Your brakes are wearing out too quickly? you say your Cobra goes thru tires too fast?

 

I think somebody is jealous that there bulding a truck like this after he spent all the money building one himself.

 

you didn't hear it from me!

 

Thats a joke right? Lets take your Raptor and my prerunner into the desert or on the dunes and see who gets further.

 

Lets do that! They will be all over the place shortly, specifically that the orders of the 6.2 have been placed. I will ask Foutz that as well. He runs a Fabtech 250 in the best of the desert, I will ask him to compare the two. His race truck vs the stock raptor.
How bout some rockcrawling? Does your prerunner do that too?


The Raptor R did have some trouble with the leaf spring perches cracking in baja. And they also had to replace at least one driveshaft(spiral crack).

 

I see you have a broad use of Google. By the way, its Best IN the desert and comparing my prerunner to the Foutz F-250 is apples to oranges. Im not sure why you keep referring to my truck as a "race truck" since mine is arbitrarily the same as yours.

 

If I used google I would not have missed the "in". I also did not call your truck a race truck, I called Foutz truck a race truck, it has full cage no windows, dont even think it has a vin.

Point is that would be a good test. Good long travel prerunner vs stock raptor.
I met Greg on the raptor rides last year in AZ and have been to his shop a few times. If anyone would know what the stock raptor can and can not do he would.
Cool pics huh?

 

Yeah, cool pics. This thread is only to point out the problems with Fords marketing and making people think that their Raptor will do what the race truck will do or what Ford depicts in their ads (jumping). I said it was a disaster because you will always have "that guy" who brings his Raptor into the dealership on a flat bed, scratching his head as to why his frame bent and his front suspension is completely collapsed wondering what to do after the service manager says, "sorry, abuse is not covered under the warranty". Ive been in the lifted truck industry for almost 10 years and have seen every side of abuse cases and every story along with it. If you want to drive that way then you can easily build a prerunner capable of it for around the same cost as a Raptor. That is all

 

The same problem exists for all manufacturers. Toyota has to worry about people building a giant see-saw and driving a Tundra across it or driving at high speed right to the end of a cliff and braking just in time. Dodge has to worry about guys driving through obstacle courses where the truck will be hit with swinging logs and fire. Ford has to worry about blind people driving Mustangs at high speeds. And these are just a few. Many disclaimers out there as well warning people that the events are on a closed course with professional drivers.

It's not just the Raptor, it's all vehicles that are manufactured and marketed to the masses. It's marketing. Happens everyday from the shampoo you use to the food you put on the table. And if there's a way and a will to sue or claim something was faulty or defective, some toehead is going to try to do it just to get something for nothing.