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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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changing leafe spring mounts

is it difficult to remove leafspring mounts on our trucks?

i found the rear end i am looking for on a 73 + f350 super camper special *according to other nonmentionable ford site it is same width as mine* but it has 3 inch springs and i think mine are 2 1/4 springs. would it be harder to change mounts on frame or on axel or do i even need to change them.

by the way i will be posting pics of my truck as i get stuff done it will be nice
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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Maybe spacers are avialable to use for the 2 1/4?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by carpenter547
is it difficult to remove leafspring mounts on our trucks?

i found the rear end i am looking for on a 73 + f350 super camper special *according to other nonmentionable ford site it is same width as mine*

but it has 3 inch springs and i think mine are 2 1/4 springs. would it be harder to change mounts on frame or on axel or do i even need to change them.
Dumb question: Did you actually measure the width of the springs of this 1973/76 Super Camper Special?

I'm guessing you did not, and are only going by this 3" measurement you read somewhere because Super Camper Special rear springs are 2 1/4" wide, but...

These rear springs are configured differently than the springs on your F250:

1968/72 F250 2WD: 2 1/4" wide / 24" > > > eye bolt < < < 32"

1973/76 F350 Super Camper Special: 2 1/4" wide / 26" > > > eye bolt < < < 26"

If the rear springs ARE 3" wide, the truck is not a Super Camper Special.

1973/76 F350 Super Camper Special rear springs: There are three different rear springs/load rates, as it depends on what the particular trucks...GVW is.

1973/76 Super * Camper Specials & 1977/79 F350 Regular Cab Camper Specials use a specific 140" wheelbase, have the same 33 1/2" rear frame width as 1961/72 F100/350's.

140" wheelbase: The 8' Styleside bed is different than was used on other 1973/79's, because the rear axle is set back further.

* Ford dropped the name Super after 1976.

btw: 1967/84 F350 2WD's have a Dana 70 rear axle, your truck has a Dana 60 rear axle.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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actually i am planning atm.

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Dumb question: Did you actually measure the width of the springs of this 1973/76 Super Camper Special?
no i didn't have a tape measure on me i was at the new junkyard with a friend and decided to look for a dana 70 rear end. i wasn't concerned with the springs overly since they are easy enough to deal with.

I'm guessing you did not, and are only going by this 3" measurement you read somewhere because Super Camper Special rear springs are 2 1/4" wide, but...
i got the 3 in measurement from npd catalog.
These rear springs are configured differently than the springs on your F250:

1968/72 F250 2WD: 2 1/4" wide / 24" > > > eye bolt < < < 32"

1973/76 F350 Super Camper Special: 2 1/4" wide / 26" > > > eye bolt < < < 26"

If the rear springs ARE 3" wide, the truck is not a Super Camper Special.
ok good to know i had heard differently on other sites all i knew for sure was the frame and thus the spring mounts were spaced right for my truck. and the rear end was at least a dana 60 but looks to be a dana 70.

1973/76 F350 Super Camper Special rear springs: There are three different rear springs/load rates, as it depends on what the particular trucks...GVW is.

1973/76 Super * Camper Specials & 1977/79 F350 Regular Cab Camper Specials use a specific 140" wheelbase, have the same 33 1/2" rear frame width as 1961/72 F100/350's.

140" wheelbase: The 8' Styleside bed is different than was used on other 1973/79's, because the rear axle is set back further.

* Ford dropped the name Super after 1976. that is really good to know the fender says super camper special. so it has to be a 73 - 76 f350 then

btw: 1967/84 F350 2WD's have a Dana 70 rear axle, your truck has a Dana 60 rear axle. no my truck has a ford 9 courtesy of a quick fix from a shady mechanic.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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this is a long term project

right now i am getting the logistics and prices and ducks in a row.

i am needing to replace front springs. rearsprings are not right rear end is a ford 9 not right. i am on 15 inch five lug rims that are too wide atm.

the plan for this truck is to replace front springs with slightly longer / taller 350 springs then realign replace rear springs with 350 springs or springs with a matching rate. and replace the ford 9 with a dana 60 or 70 with 70 being prefered. i know i will have to change rim / lug patterns for this that is ok and expected.

i want to make sure my rear springs are relativily close to front springs since right now i have VERY firm springs in the back and VERY soft springs up front. the front was ordered from autozone and is supposed to be stock *that was all i wanted* i was sorely dissapointed. so since i need to upgrade i am going to upgrade to what i want / need.

i need to use truck as a work truck to haul and tow. so i am opting out on the stiffer side. i need to daily drive the truck to make money so what ever i do it needs to be reliable.. and lastly i need to have it look nice when it is all done so my wife will be happy to be seen in it so no crude but effective mods like cutting wheel wells for larger tires.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by carpenter547
right now i am getting the logistics and prices and ducks in a row.

i am needing to replace front springs. rear springs are not right rear end is a ford 9 HUH? not right. i am on 15 inch five lug rims that are too wide atm.

the plan for this truck is to replace front springs with slightly longer / taller 350 springs then realign replace rear springs with 350 springs or springs with a matching rate.

and replace the ford 9 HUH?? with a dana 60 or 70 with 70 being prefered.
The Ford 9" rear axle was not installed in F250's. All F250's from 1953 thru 1982 have a Dana 60 rear axle, most from 1983 thru 1985 have the Dana 60 rear axle.

If your truck has a 9" rear axle, it's an F100, not an F250. If it is...as you've said...a Camper Special, Ford offered F100 Camper Specials from 1965 thru 1972.

F100's have 5 lug wheels on a 5.50" bolt circle. 1953/96 F250's and 1967/96 F350's have 8 lug wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle.

The VIN begins with F10 if an F100 2WD, F25 if an F250 2WD.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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yeah about that

the ford nine was installled with out my permission to replace a light duty dana with a 5 lug pattern i think it was a dana 44 the dana 44 was put in by previous owner durring the previous droping of the truck.
my truck has the vin f25 engine code H 390 and the previous owner slamed the stupid truck i mean slamed i bought since the body was straight and the frame was good the engine was strong and i almost immediately put in stock springs in the front. the back snapped before i could replace those on my own and verify what went in so the corner mechanic who is the only one who would take payments gave me new springs from a god unknown donor in mexico. then a week latter the rear end went out cuz i was given the order "haul this trailer or lose your job" and i recieved a ford 9 rear end again unknown source because it fit the rims *not my choice again*
i know typically 250 all had 8 lug 16 inch rims but in my year there were some light duty 250 with 5 lug rims so i didn't worry about looks too much.

since i basically have to replace everything suspension wise that bolts on to the frame i am trying to upgrade and make the right ones.

i wish i had taken a picture of the way it sat way down low when i bought it. it was as low as it could be with out modified wheel wells and fenders. i was looking up at passenger cars not good and i was ashamed to be in it like that. but since then i have lifted it back to round about stock *not sure about rear height* and i need to upgrade the front spring rate it is waaay to soft *stupid autozone*
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by carpenter547
i know typically 250 all had 8 lug 16 inch rims but in my year there were some light duty 250 with 5 lug rims No such thing!
No F250 of any year came with 5 lug 5.50" wheels, not a one.

ALL 1953/96 F250's have 8 lug wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle. Ford went to metric wheels in 1997.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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ok

ok i just remembered reading int he chilton manual that light duty 250's were made with a stamped front Ibeams that had ball joints instead of king pins. i didn't really pay much attention to it since my truck had regular forged I beams.

the booked sucked so i haven't used it instead i have just come here to pick the brains of people much smarter than i am and waaaay more acurate than that book

thanks for setting me straight on that.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No F250 of any year came with 5 lug 5.50" wheels, not a one.

ALL 1953/96 F250's have 8 lug wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle. Ford went to metric wheels in 1997.
I wonder if at some point in the trucks life, someone swapped the F250 body onto an F150 or F100 frame and that's why he had a D44 (now a 9") with the 5-5.5" pattern.

Just a thought.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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i thought that too at first but no. they just mexicalied it.grabbed a dana 44 cuz it was the first one they found with a 5 lug pattern and grabbed some 5 lug spindles.

when the guy sold it to me he was buzzed and he was half drunkely blabbering about stuff. that is the reason why i say "Mystery cam" and "supposedly" on things where the exact detail counts.

in his drunken way he told me "we puut the rear end off of a 70 something ..... and new rims from a 74 or 75 or 76 .. and i had a cam puuut in it" then back to the beer. he was so drunk i almost gave him 25 dollars for the truck instead of the asking price. but that would have been wrong so i grabbed his friend. we had agreed on every thing when he was sober so the paper work and money were just formalities.
 
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