1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Slick Sixties Ford Truck

What colors do I paint an engine for a 1965 F100 352?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #31  
Old 08-09-2011, 06:50 PM
66CustomCab's Avatar
66CustomCab
66CustomCab is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: East SF Bay Area
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aren't there two different Ford Blue colors for engines? One a darker blue & one lighter?
 
  #32  
Old 08-09-2011, 07:57 PM
1972RedNeck's Avatar
1972RedNeck
1972RedNeck is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Townsend, MT
Posts: 3,521
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I've seen dozens of 1965 289 2V's that had gold valve covers, but I doubt any 352 installed in a 1965 Passenger Car would have had gold valve covers.

From 1952 thru 1965, Ford painted valve covers myriad different colors because...this was their method for garages/body shops to be able to ID what sizes the engines were!

Having gold valve covers on two different 1965 Passenger Car engines makes absolutely no sense.

The 1965 352 Galaxie my sister drove in high school had blue valve covers. The car, with 14K on the clock was bought from the original "little old lady from Westwood" owner in 1967.
I agree it makes no sense at all. Was '64 different? I doubt this motor has been apart. It has 83,000 miles on it. It's a 4 barrel (I don't think truck motors ever had 4 barrels). I don't know what to think. You've got books, experience and have seen others. I just have my eyes.
 
  #33  
Old 08-10-2011, 02:42 AM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
NumberDummy is offline
Ford Parts Specialist

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 88,826
Received 647 Likes on 542 Posts
1958/64 FE Passenger Cars: The valve covers are rounded with no holes for an oil cap or smog valve.

The smog valve threads into the intake manifold (1961/64) and there was a separate oil fill tube on the right front side of the engine.

1963/64 Galaxie/Custom/500 XL/Thunderbird 390: Valve covers reverse embossed T H U N D E R B I R D, were painted gold.

1963/64 Galaxie/Custom/500 XL 352: Valve covers reverse embossed F O R D, were painted blue.

1963/64 Mercury 390: Valve covers reverse embossed M E R C U R Y, cannot recall their color.

1963/64 406/427: Valve covers were not marked, cannot recall the colors.

Ford also offered chrome valve covers for these 1963/64 engines as part of the 'engine dress-up' kit. All styles were available.

FE w/a 4V not available in any F100/350 until 1974, and then only as an option. 1974/76 F100/350: VIN engine code M = 390 4V
 
  #34  
Old 08-10-2011, 06:43 AM
1972RedNeck's Avatar
1972RedNeck
1972RedNeck is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Townsend, MT
Posts: 3,521
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
My motor has the truck-type valve covers. Does this mean it is a '65?
 
  #35  
Old 08-30-2011, 08:30 PM
thorswhisper's Avatar
thorswhisper
thorswhisper is offline
Cross-Country
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Original color

Ive got a 1965 F250 LWB Flareside with a 352. The motor has never been rebuildt or repainted. The valve covers are NOT what I would call Gold. They are more of a beige color. There is no metallic content to the color what so ever. Perhaps it was just a run where they ran short of the usual color, and this was available. I may have to color match it with the computer, just for the hell of it, before I blast it off and repaint it gold. While I did go back black with the block/head color, I have to agree that the blue is a MUCH BETTER color for leak recognition. ( And to me more attractive) But then again theres a big difference between restoring a vehicle and rebuilding one. I restore...... perhaps I will paint the beige after all.....hmmmm
 
  #36  
Old 08-31-2011, 05:51 AM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
NumberDummy is offline
Ford Parts Specialist

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 88,826
Received 647 Likes on 542 Posts
Your truck is 46+ years old. Engine heat and other factors like grease, road scum have caused the original valve cover paint to fade.

This isn't the first time I've heard of this, because this is what my '65 valve covers looked like in 1981, when I built the 352 into a 390 adding a 4V carb/manifold from a '66 T-Bird 428.

The engine paint was the original, since the truck was a "one owner." After the rebuild, I installed NOS Cobra LeMans oval air cleaner and valve covers, which today are worth a pretty penny.
 
  #37  
Old 08-31-2011, 09:35 AM
Buzz44's Avatar
Buzz44
Buzz44 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: colbert washington
Posts: 2,281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
46 years later you can still see some gold color through all the dirt. The covers were definately fading to a lighter color.



I can see why they might be mistaken for tan or some other color.
 
  #38  
Old 09-10-2011, 07:23 AM
flat 39's Avatar
flat 39
flat 39 is offline
New User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: In the Garage
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
I am a new guy to the forum and just bought a '65 swb. The truck is a mismash of parts. The original box was replaced with a 73-79 step side and the "A" code transmission was replaces with a truck 4 speed. I though it had the original 352 engine but it is painted Ford blue. I am guessing the the engine and trans were replaced as a unit. Is there a number on the engine that I can find that can IDS this engine?

Thanks.
 
  #39  
Old 09-10-2011, 07:17 PM
The Masked Rider's Avatar
The Masked Rider
The Masked Rider is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,670
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Good Lord, is that a motor under all that yuk?
 
  #40  
Old 09-10-2011, 08:32 PM
Boss9F100's Avatar
Boss9F100
Boss9F100 is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHX AZ
Posts: 3,561
Received 266 Likes on 178 Posts
my '65 engine bay


 
  #41  
Old 09-10-2011, 11:10 PM
Buzz44's Avatar
Buzz44
Buzz44 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: colbert washington
Posts: 2,281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Boss9F100
my '65 engine bay


Now that sure is purdy. But Boss why no headers when you had her all torn down to the grown. You know that motor is on life support running all restricted that way.
 
  #42  
Old 09-10-2011, 11:58 PM
Bdox's Avatar
Bdox
Bdox is offline
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lake Tahoe, Nevada
Posts: 28,609
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
That's beautiful Boss9F100

What is the little meter?

If it were mine I would build a nice fan shroud for it and run a clutch fan.
 
  #43  
Old 09-11-2011, 02:17 AM
The Masked Rider's Avatar
The Masked Rider
The Masked Rider is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,670
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Looks like manifold pressure. I'm kind of interesed also. What is the purpose?
AND very clean job. You can tell you put a lot of hrs in it. Not hard to do with old iron.
 
  #44  
Old 09-11-2011, 06:12 PM
Boss9F100's Avatar
Boss9F100
Boss9F100 is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHX AZ
Posts: 3,561
Received 266 Likes on 178 Posts
Originally Posted by Buzz44
Now that sure is purdy. But Boss why no headers when you had her all torn down to the grown. You know that motor is on life support running all restricted that way.
It was far too nice and original for me to want it modified much. Still had the original "Y" pipe. At 208HP the stock manifolds are fine and it runs and drives like a Million bucks. Its made it 46+yrs with the stock manifolds so am sure another 46 will not hurt...

I have the Ranger and my F100 running headers this runs fine without.
 
  #45  
Old 09-11-2011, 06:18 PM
Boss9F100's Avatar
Boss9F100
Boss9F100 is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHX AZ
Posts: 3,561
Received 266 Likes on 178 Posts
Originally Posted by Bdox
That's beautiful Boss9F100

What is the little meter?

If it were mine I would build a nice fan shroud for it and run a clutch fan.
Still have a few things to do to truck like finish fabrication of aux fuel tank and a few loose ends under hood. Trying to find a stock shroud but in 115deg heat here it does not go over 195deg engine temp. Still need to do some more cleanup, install hoses for windshield washer system and a bunch of odds and ends but at least now I can drive it daily and tinker as time allows.

Gauge is a vacuum gauge original owner installed when truck was new for tuning purposes, i decided to leave it for same reason. He also had one inside he used for economy.

Whats neat about the engine compartment gauge is he made a special tool for adjusting carb and just hung it on wiring harness in front of core support. A very clever device.
 


Quick Reply: What colors do I paint an engine for a 1965 F100 352?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:31 AM.