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Old 11-27-2009, 09:21 AM
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Lower Rat hose spring?

When did they start NOT putting a spring in the lower radiator Hose? I just picke up a set of hoses for my 1989 F250 /W 351W and there is no spring in the hose. Now like 3 days later I had to pick up a set for my 2000 GMC Jimmy and there's no spring in its lower hose? Is it ok to run without the spring? or do I need to try to pull the old one out? Responce from the parts chick was not sure why some come with a spring and some with out. I need to do the jimmy today as we almost over heated yesterday but the truck can wait as its still missing about 75% of its body.
 
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Some have the spring molded into the rubber.
The last one I put on I did take the old spring out and put it in the new one.
Some think it does not need one if you have a good 14 psi radiator cap to keep the hose inflated.
 
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:49 AM
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u dont need it if your new hose doesnt have it..in this case that is..
 
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I was told that it was because of the difference in the rubber that they use on newer hoses. That it is stiffer so it doesn't need it.

Sounded good enough for me so I went with it
 
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Well the original one on the jimmy did not have a spring inside it and that made it 10 years and 160,000+ so I guess the new one should be fine. Just kind of got me off guard as it has been make sure the spring is in the lower hose all them years and now poof its gone! lol Thanks for the responses.
 
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ive been to several meetings since they started NOT putting in the springs and have been told by hose factory reps that like the above guy posted it is the quality hoses made today dont need the spring to hold its shape. i personally think it is because they wanted to get cheaper......
 
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I like the lack of the spring. Less stuff to get lost in my coolant system and clog something.
 
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I like the lack of the spring. Less stuff to get lost in my coolant system and clog something.
...'Till you suck it flat and cook your engine.
 
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...'Till you suck it flat and cook your engine.
It won't happen with a hose without a spring. Springs work great until they fail and suck flat
 
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Originally Posted by RustyGreen View Post
I was told that it was because of the difference in the rubber that they use on newer hoses. That it is stiffer so it doesn't need it.

Sounded good enough for me so I went with it
Thats right, when we were carrying goodyear hoses at my store, they didn't have springs and the rubber was really firm. Since we got bought out and started carrying Gates and Master Pro hoses, you feel a real difference in the firmness of the hose. They need springs in them to prevent a collapse. At least it seems the springs they use these days dont corrode and fall apart anymore.
 
 
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