Looking for a new truck, need some advice.
#16
Here is the '08 truck I think.
Sloan Ford- New & Pre-Owned Vehicles- Certified Pre-Owned - Ford Service and Parts - Exton - Chester County, PA -
Sloan Ford- New & Pre-Owned Vehicles- Certified Pre-Owned - Ford Service and Parts - Exton - Chester County, PA -
#17
Here are two in Minnesota...one is a diesel and one is a V10:
2006 Ford Super Duty F-350 SRW XLT for sale from Bemidji - at www.cartrucktrader.com
2005 Ford Super Duty F-350 SRW XLT for sale from Windom - at www.cartrucktrader.com
2006 Ford Super Duty F-350 SRW XLT for sale from Bemidji - at www.cartrucktrader.com
2005 Ford Super Duty F-350 SRW XLT for sale from Windom - at www.cartrucktrader.com
#18
Use truckpaper.com for your search and make sure it is narrowed down the way you want, you will get thousands of results if it isn't. I found a '09 F250 ext. cab 4wd w/ 5.4L near me for around $38K MSRP, deduct X plan and rebates and you'd be right around $29K easy. If you could get that used '08 down in the $24K range I think it would be a better deal.
#19
Here is the '08 truck I think.
Sloan Ford- New & Pre-Owned Vehicles- Certified Pre-Owned - Ford Service and Parts - Exton - Chester County, PA -
Sloan Ford- New & Pre-Owned Vehicles- Certified Pre-Owned - Ford Service and Parts - Exton - Chester County, PA -
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#21
I too am a carpenter and I would definitely go with the F350 because of the higher rated capacity. My truck weighs in at 9530 pounds with just my basic tools. It is nice to go to the lumber yard and not have to worry about being overweight. Just the other day I had to pour piers for a deck in the morning and in the afternoon had to hang two exterior doors. Went to the Depot at 6 AM picked up 15 bags of concete, 80 pounds each and two 3-0x6-8 doors and was still under my GVW(can't do that with a F250). Around my area the State Police and the local police very often set up surprise weigh stations and weigh everything from tractor trailers to the guy with a F150 pulling a 4x6 flatbed trailer with a riding mower. I am glad I pay attention to my weight. The fine for being overweight is $1 per pound. A F250 would have been over by about 1000 pounds, not because it can't carry the load but because it is not rated to. That is my experience, hope it helps.
#22
Oh I forgot, I have a v10 and I absolutly love it. I will never again buy a diesel. Did I mention I love my V10. Don't expect it to get great fuel economy, I get 9 around town and 11 highway. But you can expect it to get you to the jobsite without breaking down and in my book, that is worth the "bad " fuel mileage. Did I mention I love my V10.
#23
I'll probably be crucified for this, but while the 5.4 is a good capable engine, unless the loads are lighter then I'm thinking they are, I wouldn't go with the 5.4. They are great engines for the F150 and for the mild towers on the F250-F350, but if "you" are doing moderate to heavy towing, I would consider at mininum a V10....
And yet, I have no problem towing over 8000 pounds of trailer with my 5.4L truck and 3.73 gears. How would you explain that?
#24
Now I have a 06' F-350 six.O,,,pulls great,,,I had an 04' F-350 V-10,,,pulled gr8,,and 2- 7.3 PS before them,,,,and yes I would do the gas job again,,if I ever buy another truck.
Now years ago,,,,we only had trucks with 150 to 240 or so HP,,,and trailered everything just fine then,,,,the Ford 5.4 engine starts out at about 260 hp in the SuperDuty,,,and is a better platform to pull with from the git Go,,,,!
I had a 97' Expedition 5.4,,,was a nice ride,,,roomy,,pulled my 18' boat just fine,,,but it was Not a SuperDuty and did not even try to pull any of my other trailers,,,,was not setup to pull them,,,trailer plug wise.
Are there better towing setups then a 5.4 engine,,sure there are,,,,But I would think the 5.4 would do just fine for most basic towing needs,,,and 4:10's and the Torq-shift trans would only enhance it more so!!
Now years ago,,,,we only had trucks with 150 to 240 or so HP,,,and trailered everything just fine then,,,,the Ford 5.4 engine starts out at about 260 hp in the SuperDuty,,,and is a better platform to pull with from the git Go,,,,!
I had a 97' Expedition 5.4,,,was a nice ride,,,roomy,,pulled my 18' boat just fine,,,but it was Not a SuperDuty and did not even try to pull any of my other trailers,,,,was not setup to pull them,,,trailer plug wise.
Are there better towing setups then a 5.4 engine,,sure there are,,,,But I would think the 5.4 would do just fine for most basic towing needs,,,and 4:10's and the Torq-shift trans would only enhance it more so!!
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8k is a light load for me, may not be for you, that might be the heaviest load you carry, but for me it's light. I've carried lighter, but 8k is still pretty darn light for the trucks.
#26
Well looks like I'm just in time, first off I owned an F150 07 FX off-road 5.4 4.10 and never in my life would I want to pull 10,005 pounds with that light of a truck my trailer with tractor and loader and 6 foot mower about 7600 pounds it would get pushed around and your knuckles would be white on mountain roads not to mention the transmission that had a be changed out at 25,000 miles due to the fact of overloading it so I was told by the dealer nearly turned into a legal battle to get them to fix it. Whatever engine you get just make sure you buy a f350 that way you'll be registered for the weight and you won't have to deal with the police they love writing tickets well in New York anyway. I personally think you'd get by with the 5.4, but if you want to be totally confident of towing heavy things do the 10 cylinder or the diesel, the only reason I didn't choose a diesel didn't want to listen to the clatter no other reason as a matter of fact I could've got a great deal on an 2009 xlt 6.4 almost the same price I paid for my 2010 XLT 5.4 did I mention I love my 5.4 LOL ;-) I suggest you try the trucks and see what you think as someone stated earlier trucks used to have less horsepower and still pulled a lot of weight I know I owned them back in the 80s and late 70s whatever super duty you go with you will have a bigger transmission better steering system and truck breaks compared to your previous vehicle you can't go wrong take care
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Well looks like I'm just in time, first off I owned an F150 07 FX off-road 5.4 4.10 and never in my life would I want to pull 10,005 pounds with that light of a truck my trailer with tractor and loader and 6 foot mower about 7600 pounds it would get pushed around and your knuckles would be white on mountain roads not to mention the transmission that had a be changed out at 25,000 miles due to the fact of overloading it so I was told by the dealer nearly turned into a legal battle to get them to fix it.
1. I was just talking about around what it's rated to handle, that really doesn't mean you want to push at or beyond it's rating. Rather or not it can handle it is another matter.
2. The trannys on the F150 are well crap. I've seen them get burned up hauling bass boats that are around 4k, I think the newer ones have the better trannys.
I don't see how it could be overloaded at 7,600 lbs, that hasn't been the upper limit of an F150 for awhile certainly I don't think back in 07, unless you got one before they changed the rating.
3. You have to consider the region that you are in. You are in New York, so you have different issues that make a truck work harder then say someone that lives in an area with less severe terrain or a no stress terrain period. That also determines what vehicle you should get.
There are a lot of things I wouldn't do when towing. I've seen people haul things with those 4 cylinder trucks that would make you cringe. I wouldn't tow with a bumper hitch period.
I haven't seen an approximate hauling weight that he might have to deal with. He might be able to get by with a 5.4, but then again he might not, also it would depend on the type of terrain he has to deal with as well. Weight might be alright, but if the terrain is a bear, then that adds to the truck's work load as well.
Towing 5.4s at one spot that I live aren't that plentiful and you'll have a hard time getting people to like them. It's v10s or diesels(still more diesels, but that's slowly changing, which doesn't bother me because that's less people I have to worry about taking my fuel when I go to fill up).
#28
Oh I forgot, I have a v10 and I absolutly love it. I will never again buy a diesel. Did I mention I love my V10. Don't expect it to get great fuel economy, I get 9 around town and 11 highway. But you can expect it to get you to the jobsite without breaking down and in my book, that is worth the "bad " fuel mileage. Did I mention I love my V10.
#29
You make some very good points tex, but I don't think he should exclude a 5.4 if he finds a good deal just because people are telling him it won't pull the weight my truck on more than one occasion has pulled more than 10,500 pounds sure it knew it was there but it did it! If I were going to pull 12,500 pounds every day I wouldn't even hesitate to buy the diesel I wouldn't waste my time with a 10 cylinder it's a great engine but you could always get by with a 5.4 and get a little better mileage when you're empty most of my trips up to job sites I'm getting nine mpg but on the way back empty 17 I'll take it. In the end whatever super duty he picks he'll be happy. By the way my location is exactly why I am chiming in if my 2010 f350 xlt super cab 5.4 4.10 can handle the mountain roads of the Northeast I find it hard to believe it couldn't handle the level ground even easier this morning I'm heading up to ski lodges in Vermont trucks down on her helper springs I hope I make it with that small 5.4 ;-) take care
#30
I just found an 09 F-350 extended cab, 8' box with the v-10. It has 4,750 miles on it. Really nice looking truck. Pretty simple interior though, vyinl floor I think, and vyinl seats as well. Waiting on the Oasis report and a couple of other questions. They are asking 29,887 for the truck. It has been 12 years since I bought a truck, how much room do these guys have on newer trucks. I am going to see what they give me for mine on trade, but how low do you start? 2K below asking, 5K below asking?
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