Help solve mystery: D44 or D60
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Well, several of you tried to help me...thanks, especially now that I have located a stamp on the axle. Apparently I didn't look very hard the first few times. It's the "446C" stamp, so it looks like I can sleep at night knowing it's a Dana 44. Yup, low pinion and not wonderful...but if it were the D60 low pinion it wouldn't have been much better. Much better than the Dana 30 on my 70 Bronco!
The question I now have, but won't lose sleep over, is whether the rig came with a Dana 60 to begin with. Some of you say the Marti Report is plain wrong, but we know it could be ordered with a 60; and the data plate on the door says it was. The rivit is half covering the axle code, but it's B4P...the "P" being the front axle code, just like the Marti Report says.
Number Dummy wrote:
I'm not disagreeing with you--or should say I shouldn't disagree with you--but the shop manual I have for 1975 trucks says P=3,550 GVW Dana 60F. The GVW capacity matches the door tag, too. Possible that there was a mistake in the paperwork and tags, I guess, because it seems odd that a (roughly) 75 Dana 44 low pinion closed knuckle axle would go in to replace a near equivalent Dana 60 of the same year.
Also: Blown 331 asked:
I need to do a cylinder check, like Bullitt390 suggests, but until then I’m going by a couple of things that may be considered circumstantial, yet compelling enough to me for the time being: a) the amount of money put in the engine (carb, intake manifold, etc.) really doesn't look like it would be justified for a 390 and b) the oil dipstick part number is for a 428CJ. I'll continue to investigate, though.
Thanks again for helping me figure this truck out! Dan.
The question I now have, but won't lose sleep over, is whether the rig came with a Dana 60 to begin with. Some of you say the Marti Report is plain wrong, but we know it could be ordered with a 60; and the data plate on the door says it was. The rivit is half covering the axle code, but it's B4P...the "P" being the front axle code, just like the Marti Report says.
Number Dummy wrote:
You need to verify this supposed Dana 60 front driving axle with Marti, because the parts catalog disagrees.
From the 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog / General Info Section / Front Axle Codes, Page 62.
P = 1973/75 = Dana 44-6CF with P/S, 3500 lb. Axle Capacity.
From the 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog / General Info Section / Front Axle Codes, Page 62.
P = 1973/75 = Dana 44-6CF with P/S, 3500 lb. Axle Capacity.
Also: Blown 331 asked:
Also how do you know it has a 428? I'm not doubting but that’s just a rare find and I'd like to hear about it.
Thanks again for helping me figure this truck out! Dan.
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I asked my dad about the 428 thing and he said that 390s were internally balanced and 428s are externally balanced. So you should be able to just look at the balancer to tell them apart. If one side of the balancer has more material (weight) then the other then it would be a 428. If the balancer is uniform then it would be a 390 (or 360 etc).
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I asked my dad about the 428 thing and he said that 390s were internally balanced and 428s are externally balanced. So you should be able to just look at the balancer to tell them apart. If one side of the balancer has more material (weight) then the other then it would be a 428. If the balancer is uniform then it would be a 390 (or 360 etc).
Josh
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Never seen that before...
First, "35133" is not the BOM. See below and report back with a better number, or any and let me know which one. (See below pic)
It's not close to what I have on this computer
Reg Dana 44 (Small baseball sized knuckles)
603395
1073.5-75 F250 w/4 ton part time 4x4
603479
1974-75 f250 full time 4x4
HD Dana 44 (Softball sized knuckles)
603396
1974-75 f250 Hevy duty Part time 4x4
603480
1974-75 f250 Hevy duty full time 4x4
Dana 60
603448
1974-75 f250 Crewcab
603628
1975.5 f250 Crewcab
First, "35133" is not the BOM. See below and report back with a better number, or any and let me know which one. (See below pic)
It's not close to what I have on this computer
Reg Dana 44 (Small baseball sized knuckles)
603395
1073.5-75 F250 w/4 ton part time 4x4
603479
1974-75 f250 full time 4x4
HD Dana 44 (Softball sized knuckles)
603396
1974-75 f250 Hevy duty Part time 4x4
603480
1974-75 f250 Hevy duty full time 4x4
Dana 60
603448
1974-75 f250 Crewcab
603628
1975.5 f250 Crewcab
#30
Could I get you to take a few more?
Like these -> Dana 44 Solid Front Axle: Reverse Spiral and Standard Housing info..
Would you be willing to e-mail me the original pics?
Any chance you could get the BOM?
Like these -> Dana 44 Solid Front Axle: Reverse Spiral and Standard Housing info..
Would you be willing to e-mail me the original pics?
Any chance you could get the BOM?