My reason for joining is a current re-power project for my 1980 IH scoutII, as I am swapping in a 7.3L PS (or making an attempt, haha)

Trying to find out if I can bolt the PowerStroke to my borg-waner t-19 that came in the scout originally. I am aware that the pre powerstroke 7.3's came with a t-19 behind them on some models; if this is true will this bellhousing bolt up to the powerstroke 7.3' of the mid 1990's? or even newer?

I am pretty sure the scout and these trucks shared the same trans, I think I remember reading that they did somewhere.

Not really sure where to post this question exactly, so i put it here.

Any help much appreciated, and thanks in advance.
- Jaron

 

i don't know about the international bell housings, but ford diesel bell housings are diesel specific.
since the powerstroke was known as the T444E in international trucks and school buses, i don't think it would be very hard to find a bellhousing that came out of an international..

 

If anyone has a bellhousing to adapt a t-19 to a 1990's or newer powerstroke or knows where I can get one, Ill buy it! haha.

I am assuming the blocks are the same on the IDI and PS? Therefore that should mean that the bellhousing off of an old 1980's one should work with the new 7.3 right?

I know they went from v-belt to serpentine, and a few other changes of the sort.

 

Ok, I have done a little more research and heres what I have found (for those having the same issue as myself.)

The IDI diesels (pre94.5) use a gasser 460 bellhousing with and adapter plate to bolt up to the diesel. In order to bolt the scoutII t-19 to the PS you will need both the adapter plate and the 460 bellhousing. If I am correct on my reading comprehension, the 6.9 IDI and 7.3 PS use the same bellhousing pattern so I should be able to bolt it up without problems. The only issue I can think of at the moment is the pilot bearing will possibly need to be modified or an alternative to this is to swap the scout trans input shaft for the ford input shaft.

 

whoever gave you that info is wrong. the gas and diesel bell housing bolt patterns are different.
while the 351M-400-429-460 bolt pattern looks like the diesel pattern, it is different, and will not bolt to a diesel block.

this gets hashed out every 6 months or so, because there is someone out there lying to sell their bell housing, and then the buyer comes on here ranting and raving cause they did not listen to us.

 

TJC is correct. The 460 bell housing is close but will not fit. The diesel is trans specific. Only a bell housing from another 6.9/7.3 will fit. Automatics are the same. You must use an auto that came from a diesel.

The power stroke manual trans was a ZF which of course had an integrated bell housing, as in the trans and bell were one piece.

 

Is there a way to bolt the t-19 to the 7.3 PS?

 

i am not positive on this, but i am pretty sure the 6.9-7.3 IDI and pre 99.5 7.3 PS used the same bell housing.so a T-19 bell from a 87 or older diesel pickup should work with a pre 99.5 engine.

the reason i suggested the international T444E angle is they come with a variety of trans options, and you may be able to find something to work with the T-19

 

Thats what I was hoping to do; From what I understand the bellhousing that bolts the IDI to the t-19 was just a 460 bellhousing that had a factory adapter plate on it allowing it to bolt to the diesel. I am 99% sure this is correct because alot of partyards are selling these adapters.

I have seen a few on www.car-part.com, but I need the entire bellhousing and adapter plate as one unit.

 

You are going to have a problem anyhow your not going to fit the clutch into a older bellhousing. The clutch for a PSD is bigger than what is used on the IDI.

I think you are better off putting a ZF into the truck a 4spd isn't going to be happy behind a PSD. Like I said your going to have problems fitting the clutch into a old style bellhousing.

 

Just my .02 cents here, but I agree with Kenworth. I'll even take it a step further-If you could put the engine, trans, and transfer case all out of the same vehicle I think that would be the way to go. Figure out your mounts and crossmembers then start plugging stuff in.

I've been watching some of these old 5.9 dodge trucks come up for sale pretty cheap lately. It sure has me thinking about putting a 5.9 in a 4x4 Ford, maybe a 73-79. Be sure to post some pictures of that project when you get a chance. Good luck.