Here comes the questions I wanrned you all
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Here comes the questions I wanrned you all
Ok the sickness has set in, I can now walk in the cast. The 52 we bought is in pretty good shape now that I got out there and looked at it. I am doing some planning/strategizing on what we are gonna do after we dis- assemble and clean......................
I found another truck, surprise surprise. He says it is a 50 but the pictures have a 51 or 52 front clip.
1) Is that possible? Is the only difference in the 48-50 and the 52's the rear windows and the dash?
2) The other truck (1950) even if its a 50 I am gonna buy it because it already has the Heidts front kit and the rear is C notched (with Ford 9 inch) so it is sitting good already.
3) So how interchangeable are the 48 through 52 parts. At first I thought 48- 50 was a different animal, at least I thought you couldn't put the front clip of an earlier to a later. I think I am wrong.
4) THe 52 we bought has a 53 steering wheel and an auto shifter on the column, I know these are out of a 53 right so that much is interchangeable. My son loves the wheel and shifter, can we keep it/adapt it to work with semi modern 302 and C4?
Sorry so long, just outside for first time today with truck and the wheels are spinning. Any additional techniques & time savers as far as disassembly please speak up. We are not gonna make it perfect but clean at least so we decided to take er down to the frame.
I guess motor and trans next then set everything on top?
Oh yeah the second truck comes with a rebuilt 327 and 2 speed powerglide,........Sorry Chevy fans but that crap has gotta go. Anyone interested? We r in So Cal. Thanks, sorry so long Ryan n Ryan Jr
I found another truck, surprise surprise. He says it is a 50 but the pictures have a 51 or 52 front clip.
1) Is that possible? Is the only difference in the 48-50 and the 52's the rear windows and the dash?
2) The other truck (1950) even if its a 50 I am gonna buy it because it already has the Heidts front kit and the rear is C notched (with Ford 9 inch) so it is sitting good already.
3) So how interchangeable are the 48 through 52 parts. At first I thought 48- 50 was a different animal, at least I thought you couldn't put the front clip of an earlier to a later. I think I am wrong.
4) THe 52 we bought has a 53 steering wheel and an auto shifter on the column, I know these are out of a 53 right so that much is interchangeable. My son loves the wheel and shifter, can we keep it/adapt it to work with semi modern 302 and C4?
Sorry so long, just outside for first time today with truck and the wheels are spinning. Any additional techniques & time savers as far as disassembly please speak up. We are not gonna make it perfect but clean at least so we decided to take er down to the frame.
I guess motor and trans next then set everything on top?
Oh yeah the second truck comes with a rebuilt 327 and 2 speed powerglide,........Sorry Chevy fans but that crap has gotta go. Anyone interested? We r in So Cal. Thanks, sorry so long Ryan n Ryan Jr
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Changing a '48-50 to look like a '51-52 is sacrilage, IMO.
Here's the chart Dick mentioned.
www.fatfenderedtrucks.com/partsinterchange.html
Once again,
Here's the chart Dick mentioned.
www.fatfenderedtrucks.com/partsinterchange.html
Once again,
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The '51 has a different hood and hood trim. The '51 has the Ford on the hood and the '52 reverted back to the same FORD letter mounted on the panel below hood. With the different hood trim the holes on the front of the hood are different.
1951 hood
1952 hood
The frames are also slightly different. With the introduction of the OHV six cylinder the engine mounts were changed in '52. Ford added a stamped tower on each side of the frame to bolt the front motor mount to.
There might be other differences but I don't know what they are.
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Ok the sickness has set in, I can now walk in the cast. The 52 we bought is in pretty good shape now that I got out there and looked at it. I am doing some planning/strategizing on what we are gonna do after we dis- assemble and clean......................
I found another truck, surprise surprise. He says it is a 50 but the pictures have a 51 or 52 front clip. Back window will be large on 51/52, dash will have 2 sets of round gauges instead of one panel, dash layout/radio area is different (no ***** on 51/52 ash tray and glove box door on 52/52 has strip going across top). 48-50 & 52 will have "F-O-R-D" spelled out on the upper valance in chrome letters. On the 51 it is cast into the nose orniment. 48-50 & 52 hood nose has 2 seperate holes on each side 51 is fully cut out across the center. 48-50 will have raised side panels on bed (unless it's a very late 50). 51/52s will have flat bed sides. Stock 48-50 beds will be metal covered - 51/52 wood planks. 48-50 Magic air heater motor boxes are in the passenger side fender well, in 51/52 heater motors are in the cab box.
1) Is that possible? Is the only difference in the 48-50 and the 52's the rear windows and the dash? The 52 may have the new 215 OHV 6 cylinder engineand WILLhave different frame mounts. 48-50s will have flathead 6s and 8s..see above.
2) The other truck (1950) even if its a 50 I am gonna buy it because it already has the Heidts front kit and the rear is C notched (with Ford 9 inch) so it is sitting good already.
3) So how interchangeable are the 48 through 52 parts. At first I thought 48- 50 was a different animal, at least I thought you couldn't put the front clip of an earlier to a later. I think I am wrong. 48-50 are pretty much the same. 51-52 front, rear fenders and bed sides are different. If you put a complete 51/52 bed on the 48-50 truck it works but the bed to fender components are not interchangeable (bed sides tailgate and fenders). Front fenders and valances/grills are not interchangeable. Some of the chassis components such as spindles and brake drums are not interchangeable. The 51/52 years are a little unique.
4) The 52 we bought has a 53 steering wheel and an auto shifter on the column, I know these are out of a 53 right so that much is interchangeable. My son loves the wheel and shifter, can we keep it/adapt it to work with semi modern 302 and C4? Yes absolutely, I am using my stock 51 steering column and wheel with the standard three-on-the-tree shift with my C6 automatic.
Sorry so long, just outside for first time today with truck and the wheels are spinning. Any additional techniques & time savers as far as disassembly please speak up. We are not gonna make it perfect but clean at least so we decided to take er down to the frame.
I guess motor and trans next then set everything on top?
Oh yeah the second truck comes with a rebuilt 327 and 2 speed powerglide,........Sorry Chevy fans but that crap has gotta go. Anyone interested? We r in So Cal. Thanks, sorry so long Ryan n Ryan Jr
I found another truck, surprise surprise. He says it is a 50 but the pictures have a 51 or 52 front clip. Back window will be large on 51/52, dash will have 2 sets of round gauges instead of one panel, dash layout/radio area is different (no ***** on 51/52 ash tray and glove box door on 52/52 has strip going across top). 48-50 & 52 will have "F-O-R-D" spelled out on the upper valance in chrome letters. On the 51 it is cast into the nose orniment. 48-50 & 52 hood nose has 2 seperate holes on each side 51 is fully cut out across the center. 48-50 will have raised side panels on bed (unless it's a very late 50). 51/52s will have flat bed sides. Stock 48-50 beds will be metal covered - 51/52 wood planks. 48-50 Magic air heater motor boxes are in the passenger side fender well, in 51/52 heater motors are in the cab box.
1) Is that possible? Is the only difference in the 48-50 and the 52's the rear windows and the dash? The 52 may have the new 215 OHV 6 cylinder engineand WILLhave different frame mounts. 48-50s will have flathead 6s and 8s..see above.
2) The other truck (1950) even if its a 50 I am gonna buy it because it already has the Heidts front kit and the rear is C notched (with Ford 9 inch) so it is sitting good already.
3) So how interchangeable are the 48 through 52 parts. At first I thought 48- 50 was a different animal, at least I thought you couldn't put the front clip of an earlier to a later. I think I am wrong. 48-50 are pretty much the same. 51-52 front, rear fenders and bed sides are different. If you put a complete 51/52 bed on the 48-50 truck it works but the bed to fender components are not interchangeable (bed sides tailgate and fenders). Front fenders and valances/grills are not interchangeable. Some of the chassis components such as spindles and brake drums are not interchangeable. The 51/52 years are a little unique.
4) The 52 we bought has a 53 steering wheel and an auto shifter on the column, I know these are out of a 53 right so that much is interchangeable. My son loves the wheel and shifter, can we keep it/adapt it to work with semi modern 302 and C4? Yes absolutely, I am using my stock 51 steering column and wheel with the standard three-on-the-tree shift with my C6 automatic.
Sorry so long, just outside for first time today with truck and the wheels are spinning. Any additional techniques & time savers as far as disassembly please speak up. We are not gonna make it perfect but clean at least so we decided to take er down to the frame.
I guess motor and trans next then set everything on top?
Oh yeah the second truck comes with a rebuilt 327 and 2 speed powerglide,........Sorry Chevy fans but that crap has gotta go. Anyone interested? We r in So Cal. Thanks, sorry so long Ryan n Ryan Jr
If equiped with a 239 V8 Engine the 51 will have a "V8" ornament on the Upper valance while on the 52 it will be on the hood nose ornament. If the 51 has a 223 IL 6 cylinder engine there will be no ornament on th etruck designating that. On the 52 it will also be on the hood nose ornament.
The nose opening on the 51 is open all the way across the center of the hood nose, while that on the 52 is only open on the sides of center.
The hood spears on the 51 have "Ford" and "F1" on the thin spear. On the 52 "F1" is on a large round emblem on the spear toward the front.
If the truck is equiped with a stock factory installed 6 cylinder engine, in the 51 that will be a flathead 223, in the 52 it will be a 215 Overhead Valve.
And if you want to get really rediculous, on the factory installed Magic Aire Fresh Air heater, the 51 will have a rubber boot end that connects the fresh air duct flange that is round and on the 52 it is rectangular.
Fourth character in that serial number will be a "1" in a 51 and a "2" in a 52.
The 1952 will not have an engine compartment "Patent Data Plate."
I think that's all but I may have forgotten something. The upper valance letters and hood spears are the instant give aways between the two years.
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I have the same problem except, my indicator needle is mounted on the shift rod which is above the steering tube and not centered around it like th eautomatic tubes. So I set it so it indicator correctly when in "Drive" and it's a little off as it gets farther off center in either direction - not bad (like a whole gear) but you can tell it's not quite perfect.
You may end up making a different shift rod but that's easy.
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