Rebuild an inline-6 instead of a V8?!
#166
But keep in mind we got shafted in the straight six world. Ford gave the good motor to australia. Personally I am interested in building a 250 like the guy in one post mentioned. I have heard of a few 300 making it above the 300hp mark with great torque numbers, but many have fallen apart at that point too. I would take an aussie 6 any day of the week though. YouTube - ITUF65 10.03@140mphhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn3D4...eature=related
#167
I'm not up on the newer motors. I'm an old guy and I prefer the older cars and trucks. I do ride in some of the newer pickup trucks and one thing I've noticed is when going up a grade of any length, the automatic trans is constantly shifting up and down to maintain a decent 55 mph.
I can take my old 1981 4.9 with C6 and go go up the same grades and my truck maintains its speed without any shifting. If I want, I can even pass without a problem. Some of these newer v-8's start upshifting and downshifting when trying to pass another car and I wonder sometimes if they will make it.
I know I'm not going to win any drag races with my 4.9 but for everyday driving and hauling, its tough to beat and I've had about every motor/trans combo ever made in my lifetime.When it comes to a usable, everyday drivable torque range, the 4.9 is hard to beat. The best feature is, I can open the hood and see the ground and everything is right where you can get at it if you need to repair something on the motor. Its a great motor for a youngster to learn on.
I can take my old 1981 4.9 with C6 and go go up the same grades and my truck maintains its speed without any shifting. If I want, I can even pass without a problem. Some of these newer v-8's start upshifting and downshifting when trying to pass another car and I wonder sometimes if they will make it.
I know I'm not going to win any drag races with my 4.9 but for everyday driving and hauling, its tough to beat and I've had about every motor/trans combo ever made in my lifetime.When it comes to a usable, everyday drivable torque range, the 4.9 is hard to beat. The best feature is, I can open the hood and see the ground and everything is right where you can get at it if you need to repair something on the motor. Its a great motor for a youngster to learn on.
#168
"Take a lill trip, take a lill trip..."
Aussie takes a lill trip.
Yes, Yanks went to V8, in Oz land they reworked and reworked the 250, but we can hop the earlier version they started on. I got 2. One will B mild (built for tq). Any 1 wanna do what the guys down under do w/the other (X-flow, turbo)?
Best a the Season 2 U.
Thanks for the vid!
Aussie takes a lill trip.
Yes, Yanks went to V8, in Oz land they reworked and reworked the 250, but we can hop the earlier version they started on. I got 2. One will B mild (built for tq). Any 1 wanna do what the guys down under do w/the other (X-flow, turbo)?
Best a the Season 2 U.
Thanks for the vid!
#169
New Engine
Today I have finally started my new F-150 1980 300. About 3 weeks have gone by. I had the engine rebuilt .03 new pistons, rings, camshaft, lifters, pushrods, rocker arms, Clifford F-4502 intake, Holley 4160 rebuilt carburetor, Ford EFI exhaust manifolds, new Duraspark II ignition module, and new distributor. Also had C-6 tansmission rebuilt totally. I having the truck towed towed to the muffler shop to connect the old exhaust to the new exhaust headers. Check my gallery for before and after pictures.
#170
#172
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there is a "new thread button on the top left.
#174
Well the bickering certainly escalated quickly... If the OP ever makes it to page 12 and see's this, I picked up a '79 4x4 300 last fall and have had a blast learning.
Bear in mind I went into this with almost no knowledge whatsoever when it comes to engines. I started with a barely running 300 that had vacuum leaks, a clogged up carb, and any number of other electrical and fuel leaking issues. Now its idling fairly smoothly and I finally got it to stop flooding the engine with fuel.
There is a lot more info and parts out there for v8's and they go faster in most cases. My 300 doesn't go fast, it is just about the slowest thing I've ever driven and I love it. Just chugs it way along merrily like an unstoppable glacier. Did I mention I love it to death?
Bear in mind I went into this with almost no knowledge whatsoever when it comes to engines. I started with a barely running 300 that had vacuum leaks, a clogged up carb, and any number of other electrical and fuel leaking issues. Now its idling fairly smoothly and I finally got it to stop flooding the engine with fuel.
There is a lot more info and parts out there for v8's and they go faster in most cases. My 300 doesn't go fast, it is just about the slowest thing I've ever driven and I love it. Just chugs it way along merrily like an unstoppable glacier. Did I mention I love it to death?
#175
#176
other's in the ford
So most here is about the 300/4.9. There were 3 other "falcon engines" (what the 300 'evolved from) in these "trucks". Can U name them?
The name of this forum (not site) leaves them out:
144ci
170ci
200ci
240ci
Oh, wait it DOSE have the 200. OK, what "truck" & yrs wuz that in....
Bonus points for citing your info source!
The name of this forum (not site) leaves them out:
144ci
170ci
200ci
240ci
Oh, wait it DOSE have the 200. OK, what "truck" & yrs wuz that in....
Bonus points for citing your info source!
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Incorrect!
The Falcon-Ranchero Small Block I-6 engines were the;
144c.i.
170c.i. Special
200c.i.
250c.i.
Manufactured from 1960 through 1984. Officially dubbed the Thriftpower Six, this engine line is sometimes referred to as the Falcon Six. A one piece Intake & Exhaust manifold were on the Left Side of the Engine Block.
The Full Sized Car, Truck & Van Big Block I-6 engines were the;
240c.i. (1965–1970 full sized cars (continued to 74 in fleet models and 63-77 trucks or vans)
300c.i. (1965-1996 in F-series trucks)
Manufactured from 1964 through 1996, the 240c.i. and 300c.i. I-6's are well known for their durability. Unlike the Falcon engine, it featured separate intake and exhaust manifolds on the Right Side of the Engine block, which could be easily replaced with aftermarket manifolds offering the promise of even more power, through the installation of larger carburetors and a higher flowing exhaust system.
The Falcon-Ranchero Small Block I-6 engines were the;
144c.i.
170c.i. Special
200c.i.
250c.i.
Manufactured from 1960 through 1984. Officially dubbed the Thriftpower Six, this engine line is sometimes referred to as the Falcon Six. A one piece Intake & Exhaust manifold were on the Left Side of the Engine Block.
The Full Sized Car, Truck & Van Big Block I-6 engines were the;
240c.i. (1965–1970 full sized cars (continued to 74 in fleet models and 63-77 trucks or vans)
300c.i. (1965-1996 in F-series trucks)
Manufactured from 1964 through 1996, the 240c.i. and 300c.i. I-6's are well known for their durability. Unlike the Falcon engine, it featured separate intake and exhaust manifolds on the Right Side of the Engine block, which could be easily replaced with aftermarket manifolds offering the promise of even more power, through the installation of larger carburetors and a higher flowing exhaust system.
So most here is about the 300/4.9. There were 3 other "falcon engines" (what the 300 'evolved from) in these "trucks". Can U name them?
The name of this forum (not site) leaves them out:
144ci
170ci
200ci
240ci
Oh, wait it DOSE have the 200. OK, what "truck" & yrs wuz that in....
Bonus points for citing your info source!
The name of this forum (not site) leaves them out:
144ci
170ci
200ci
240ci
Oh, wait it DOSE have the 200. OK, what "truck" & yrs wuz that in....
Bonus points for citing your info source!
#178
Ahh, as soon as I saw the name with the post I knew help was on the way (B4 even 'opening')!
Good Day Sir!
So it seems U support my idea that the forum could add "144, 170, 240" to the title of this friendly lill section? the "econobox" (& it's brother the van/pick up), sedan delivery, ranchero, bronk all had these motors...
Thanks for helpin w/the 240 years of availability. I thought they (300/240) might not have been simultaneous productions.
I love all the ford six models so will not argue the "big six" is/is not baised on the "small six". The Ford 'family' idea (rather than chebby's small block etc) the growth thru the yrs, similarity of design, etc help some of us call the big six - falcon motors as well.
Thanks for your help, keep talkin...
8^ )
Good Day Sir!
So it seems U support my idea that the forum could add "144, 170, 240" to the title of this friendly lill section? the "econobox" (& it's brother the van/pick up), sedan delivery, ranchero, bronk all had these motors...
Thanks for helpin w/the 240 years of availability. I thought they (300/240) might not have been simultaneous productions.
I love all the ford six models so will not argue the "big six" is/is not baised on the "small six". The Ford 'family' idea (rather than chebby's small block etc) the growth thru the yrs, similarity of design, etc help some of us call the big six - falcon motors as well.
Thanks for your help, keep talkin...
8^ )
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I'd like to see All of the I6's represented in the title.
If it means changing the title to something like;
Ford Mileage Maker 6's - Falcon 6's - Big Block 6's
or
Ford 215 through 262 - 144 through 250 - 240/300 I6's
"Mileage Maker 6"
215c.i. (52-54)
223c.i. ("Mileage Maker 6" 55-64 & used for industrial applications till 67)
262c.i.(61-64 & used for industrial applications till 67)
The Medium Block I6 Engine was manufactured from 1952 through 1964 and shared many parts with Ford Y-blocks such as the entire valve train. These engines have the exhaust and intake on the driver's side and the distributor on the passenger side. they were installed in Full Size Cars, Rancheros, F-series Trucks & Vans.
"Thrift Power 6"
144c.i.
170c.i. Special
200c.i.
250c.i. (red headed stepchild of the Falcon 6's, as it was longer & taller than the first three S.B. engines in this series)
240/300c.i. I-6's used the same Big Block engine block & is the biggest I'6 Ford ever designed.
Being Taller, Longer & weighing at least 250lbs more than previous I6's made by Ford.
Not only is the Intake/Exhaust manifolds located differently from previous FoMoCo I6's , but so is the Distributor.
If it means changing the title to something like;
Ford Mileage Maker 6's - Falcon 6's - Big Block 6's
or
Ford 215 through 262 - 144 through 250 - 240/300 I6's
"Mileage Maker 6"
215c.i. (52-54)
223c.i. ("Mileage Maker 6" 55-64 & used for industrial applications till 67)
262c.i.(61-64 & used for industrial applications till 67)
The Medium Block I6 Engine was manufactured from 1952 through 1964 and shared many parts with Ford Y-blocks such as the entire valve train. These engines have the exhaust and intake on the driver's side and the distributor on the passenger side. they were installed in Full Size Cars, Rancheros, F-series Trucks & Vans.
"Thrift Power 6"
144c.i.
170c.i. Special
200c.i.
250c.i. (red headed stepchild of the Falcon 6's, as it was longer & taller than the first three S.B. engines in this series)
240/300c.i. I-6's used the same Big Block engine block & is the biggest I'6 Ford ever designed.
Being Taller, Longer & weighing at least 250lbs more than previous I6's made by Ford.
Not only is the Intake/Exhaust manifolds located differently from previous FoMoCo I6's , but so is the Distributor.
#180
to me the 4.9's got em all beat (esp for durability). I've seen the 200 in industrial apps (as well as 300, 'course).
Over on ford6 Xestacy (spelling?) has some pic up of the 223. THAT one's red alright...got the 1904 glass bowel and sideways air cleaner housing shown prominently (in 3 - 5 shots).
Y blocks, not sure bout them, just really studied the I6 (sm/big six).
1st time we met U were doin sompin to the 223 (a rebuild? a turbo?). What can U tell me bout them? I'll get off if folks want - this may B jackin the thread...
8^0
("...Ford 215 through 262 - 144 through 250 - 240/300 I6's..." All sixs! all trucks?)
Over on ford6 Xestacy (spelling?) has some pic up of the 223. THAT one's red alright...got the 1904 glass bowel and sideways air cleaner housing shown prominently (in 3 - 5 shots).
Y blocks, not sure bout them, just really studied the I6 (sm/big six).
1st time we met U were doin sompin to the 223 (a rebuild? a turbo?). What can U tell me bout them? I'll get off if folks want - this may B jackin the thread...
8^0
("...Ford 215 through 262 - 144 through 250 - 240/300 I6's..." All sixs! all trucks?)