Notices

4.9 echast questionnnn

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 8, 2009 | 07:20 PM
  #1  
NW 150's Avatar
NW 150
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,931
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
4.9 echast questionnnn

i have a 96 f150 4x4 with the 300...i plan on gettin this
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-93302/


my question is...what muffler is out there that is loud, mellow, and has a deep tone? i want to actually hear the exhaust in the cab when it is idleing. im thinking of the super 44? but all suggestions appreciated!!
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2009 | 08:29 AM
  #2  
timbersteel's Avatar
timbersteel
Logistics Pro
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 4,698
Likes: 47
From: Mexico, Missouri
I would look into a set of hedman headers if you are thinking of going this route. I think either Andym or Silverstreak adapted them for use on his 300. He had to grind his Alt bracket some to get them to fit, but he stated it was a noticable difference. And I think that setup you looked at is rather nice @ Summit. Maybe a Series 40 flowmaster for the muffler? I have heard a lot of folks on here have them for the 300's
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2009 | 12:18 PM
  #3  
IowanStraight6's Avatar
IowanStraight6
Elder User
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 805
Likes: 1
From: Small town Iowa
one problem with the header where are the two upstream o2 sensors gonna go there right in the manafolds and the down stream is located between pre cat and after cat since im 99.9% sure this is a three bank system unlike the speed density system that only has one upstream that could be relocated easly with this setup
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2009 | 12:38 PM
  #4  
IowanStraight6's Avatar
IowanStraight6
Elder User
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 805
Likes: 1
From: Small town Iowa
nw i looked at the magnaflow cat pray to god that your cat aint bad cause well sorry for the bad news thats a direct replacement for a truck with speed density cause it has a outlet for the only oxygen sensor found on it and thats upstream yours lies between the pre cat and after cat on the top side across from your tranny and the other two not a problem are in your manafolds. unless you can find a dumbey sensor for the cat or can build one (let me know if you can tryin to fix dads '96) you could just eliminate the cat unless if you have emmisoin law in which you could use the one from summit otherwiss you have to go with the factory cats that are now dont have a heart attak just short of $500 and thats not at the dealer, sorry for the long reply and bad news
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2009 | 10:51 PM
  #5  
NW 150's Avatar
NW 150
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,931
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by IowanStraight6
nw i looked at the magnaflow cat pray to god that your cat aint bad cause well sorry for the bad news thats a direct replacement for a truck with speed density cause it has a outlet for the only oxygen sensor found on it and thats upstream yours lies between the pre cat and after cat on the top side across from your tranny and the other two not a problem are in your manafolds. unless you can find a dumbey sensor for the cat or can build one (let me know if you can tryin to fix dads '96) you could just eliminate the cat unless if you have emmisoin law in which you could use the one from summit otherwiss you have to go with the factory cats that are now dont have a heart attak just short of $500 and thats not at the dealer, sorry for the long reply and bad news


lol sorry but i truely didnt get a thing you said.. yes the two o2 sensors by the engine just stay at the manifolds, and then the last one is by the tranny..so what is wrong with it again?
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2009 | 10:56 PM
  #6  
NW 150's Avatar
NW 150
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,931
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by timbersteel
I would look into a set of hedman headers if you are thinking of going this route. I think either Andym or Silverstreak adapted them for use on his 300. He had to grind his Alt bracket some to get them to fit, but he stated it was a noticable difference. And I think that setup you looked at is rather nice @ Summit. Maybe a Series 40 flowmaster for the muffler? I have heard a lot of folks on here have them for the 300's

yea the 40 might not be bad..but i read up the descriptions for the 40 and super 44.. the 40 was loud on the outside only and the 44 was supposed to be loud inside and out so ill take both in to consideration ater i make up my mind ha
 
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:08 AM
  #7  
timbersteel's Avatar
timbersteel
Logistics Pro
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 4,698
Likes: 47
From: Mexico, Missouri
Iowan was right about the '96, MAF setup. I'm still learning, but it may be difficult or impossible for a set of hedman headers for your app.

If you do go with the Super 44, let me know, as I'm getting closer to building my exhaust system, when the money allows it. I'm gonna try what one of the others have tried and go with headers(adapted) and a new exhaust all the way down to just before the pass. rear tire.
 
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:53 PM
  #8  
IowanStraight6's Avatar
IowanStraight6
Elder User
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 805
Likes: 1
From: Small town Iowa
NW if you look closely to where the magnaflow cat turns into a dual to single theres that hole for your o2 sensor its in the wrong spot. See when you talk about o2 sensors theres two types upstream found before the cat and down stream found after the cat. The 96 (your truck) and if im not mistaken some of the 95s that are california trucks have a OBDII computer which is a very and i do say very touchey with what you do to it. See your truck since it has that computer has what you call a three bank sytem which means you have three o2 sensors two before the cat to (sommbody correct me if im wrong) see how rich or lean your running the one after the pre cat located by the tranny detects weather or not the cat is working corectly. Thats why if you instal the magnaflow it will through a code saying that your cat is bad due to the hole for the third o2 sensor is upstream instead of down stream. I hope i didnt confuse you even more.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 04:26 PM
  #9  
6CylBill's Avatar
6CylBill
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,021
Likes: 4
From: Almost Heaven
I like my flowmaster 44. I'm sure there are better sounding 300's out there, but the best ones I've heard had baffled mufflers (like a flowmaster).

Glasspacks don't sound bad either.
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 12:26 AM
  #10  
9.ford.5's Avatar
9.ford.5
Postmaster
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,995
Likes: 0
From: raymond alberta
a loud muffler...try a blue bottle...makes my dads 302 sound like a harley davidson bike...and im not exaggerating...if i remember i will get sound clips next time im out there, its been sitting an i want to buy it off him and fix some stuff on it to replace the ole 91 of mine (my dads 92 with the blue bottles is an ext. cab haha same truck otherwise)
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:30 PM
  #11  
hoxiii's Avatar
hoxiii
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,711
Likes: 2
From: Pittsburgh
Do you want loud or do you want aggessive?

I tried running a flowmaster 40 on my 300 and it drove me beserk. It didn't have a presence at idle, droned on cruise, and was raspy at WOT. It was everything I didn't want in a muffler.

Ran a glasspack and it wasn't bad until the packing blew out, and then it was just loud all the time.

Finally decided, "Forget it, time for a quiet truck," and walked into the local discount parts house. Asked for a 2.25" oval case turbo muffler with a centered inlet and an offset outlet- cost all of $19.00.

I have the stock log exhaust, so I have a single 2" pipe down to right at the back of the cab (supercab shortbed, muffler is even with the front of the saddle tank). There it steps up to the 2.25 muffler and a full length tailpipe.

In the cab at idle I can't hear it per se, but i can feel it; it has a good bass to it. Outside the truck it has a nice rumble on the exhaust side but isn't so loud that everyone turns around when I start it. At WOT it isn't raspy or excessively loud ut everyone knows it when you lay into it and on the highway it's quiet enough to be a DD without hesitation.

But if all you want is noise in the cab, lop the tailpipe off at the end of the muffler. That's free.
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:36 PM
  #12  
6CylBill's Avatar
6CylBill
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,021
Likes: 4
From: Almost Heaven
I agree but it depends on where the tailpipes exit. My 44 series was LOUD at idle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QIy1...e=channel_page

I say just run a short glasspack. I like it loud and aggresive as long as it's not bad in the cab. The key to this is to run full length tailpipes.

Edit; I cut the muffler off my truck while maintaining both factory cats. Wasn't a bad sound either, and it's super cheap (a length of pipe and turndown is all you'll need).
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:43 PM
  #13  
70torino429's Avatar
70torino429
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,074
Likes: 1
From: Mass.
What's an echast?
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 02:01 PM
  #14  
hoxiii's Avatar
hoxiii
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,711
Likes: 2
From: Pittsburgh
Originally Posted by 6CylBill
Edit; I cut the muffler off my truck while maintaining both factory cats. Wasn't a bad sound either, and it's super cheap (a length of pipe and turndown is all you'll need).
That was my favorite setup on my reg cab long bed 85. ran the factory cats, no muffler, and a full length exhaust. Then the cats clogged and I wasn't willing to spend that much- hence why i've been through about 6 exhaust setups in the last 3 years looking for one I liked.
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 02:57 PM
  #15  
6CylBill's Avatar
6CylBill
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,021
Likes: 4
From: Almost Heaven
Originally Posted by hoxiii
That was my favorite setup on my reg cab long bed 85. ran the factory cats, no muffler, and a full length exhaust. Then the cats clogged and I wasn't willing to spend that much- hence why i've been through about 6 exhaust setups in the last 3 years looking for one I liked.
You ran a tailpipe? I did that one time too with no muffler. What did you think your truck sounded like? Dumped under my truck I thought it sounded just like a tractor.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:23 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE