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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Use the directions in my post above.

Critical thing is do not remove the IP drive gear cover (four bolts pointed straight down and look like an easy way to remove the IP) and do your best to not unmesh the IP drive gear from the cam drive gear.

As long as the gears stay meshed, the gears will stay in time and the injection timing will be close to right if you line up the timing marks on the IP neck and the IP drive gear cover neck.

Yes removing the three nuts that hold the IP to the IP drive gear cover are a pain, but much easier than getting the gears back in time.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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hey dave,
the pump that i picked up came off a 89 7.3. and mine is a 90 7.3.

the numbers off the new pump are;
model no. and R.P.M. E9 DB2831 4732
serial no. and mfg. no. 6402640 1813250C91


will that work on mine?
cuz its not visually the same.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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i talked to the ford dealership here,
they said it wont work, and that i need to find the exact same tag number.

and that different pumps are for different elevations,
with or with out e4oz or something like that,
and a few other specs that are distinct to the specific pump on a specific truck.

but i wanna hear it from you before i go further with anything.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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E4OD Its the electronic transmission. For it, the pump is fitted with a throttle position sensor to tell the ecm how far you are pressing the pedal.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by leesmythe
so what did u do?
I put the engine on TDC and I shined a light down in there to see the mark, but once you start lowering the pump, you cant see anything, so I guessed. Got lucky.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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1990-1992 7.3L -- F or E, M/T -- DB2-4821 -- B,BB,C,D
1990-1992 7.3L -- F or E, E4OD -- DB2-4817 -- B,BB,C,D

The pump will probably run the engine, but will it run right, probably not.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
1990-1992 7.3L -- F or E, M/T -- DB2-4821 -- B,BB,C,D
1990-1992 7.3L -- F or E, E4OD -- DB2-4817 -- B,BB,C,D

The pump will probably run the engine, but will it run right, probably not.
so what this means is that i need to find one that matches mine which is;

FO DB2831 4817

the F at the beginning, the DB2, and the 4817 at the end is what matters..?? what is the M/T and the e40d and where do i find it on the tag? does it matter?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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M/T and E4OD mean nothing more than Manual Trans, or E4OD trans

if you have a manual trans, you can use an automatic trans injector pump. but not the other way around.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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update;

i got another pump and put it on(matchin numbers, used)

and now the truck wont start again, i even tried starting fluid, all it does is start for a half second and die.

now i have to charge my batteries.


any ideas?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Did you get all the air out of the lines and Is fuel coming out of the IP?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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i thought i got the air out of the lines,,, i cranked away. and cracked open a line at an injector.

no fuel came out...

unless there another way.


another thing, is static timing(as it refers to in the manual) important enough that if its not dead ***** acurate it wont start??
 
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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If it is within 1/8 it will run.
Is your lift pump good?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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i dunno. i thought it was.

i got it off a "running engine"
 
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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The IP( injector pump) or the lift pump? they are 2 different fuel pumps.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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injection pump.
 
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