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Non turbo diesels are not worth much for pulling.

My IDI can not pull a 3% hill at the speed limit if it has a load in the bed.
I simply drop a gear and let her mosey up the hill
 
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I do. It drops close to 20 MPH before it gets down to a speed it can hold.
 
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Just handling the fuel nozzel I can smell it on my hand all day, and ( most ) women do not like dudes that smell like diesel.
Yeah, some pumps are like that, but some pumps do the same with gas, though it is not as common. And we already went over the woman deal. LOL

And yeah, my 06 does not smell of diesel. On a cold morning when it is blowing white smoke, then yeah a little. Other than that, no smell.
 
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I do. It drops close to 20 MPH before it gets down to a speed it can hold.
Ive towed my grady around on 14 % grades and have never had to shift her down, just put her in tow mode and she is one happy truck! We arnt screaming up thoes logging roads by any means but I have never felt like the boat controlls the truck. the boat weighs 10 000 lbs plus whatever we catch for the day...

its a 2005 f250 and its got a 4.10 in the rear and the heaviest towing tranny that i could have gotten that year ( forget which one it was ). - Love the set up for towing !
 
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Yeah, that is why I did not say "all" LOL.

My diesel, even though it is built, does not smoke, smell of diesel, or anything. Though my buddys 1995 does, that thing smokes worse than a frieght train. Newer diesels don't smell or smoke. I will agree, the 2003 and 2004 6.0 have tons of problems.
While the newer ones may smell less of diesel, they still smell, or I should say my Dad's '07 Dodge does. It's quiet(er), powerful and gets good mileage, 17-18 mpg empty, 10-11 mpg towing his 37 ft 5'er. It also is still a diesel and will still be spendy to fix, which is and always has been my gripe with them. I spent more than a little time researching what truck fit me best and a V10 was it. The 5.4 was too little and the diesel too much, and the V10 was just right, and has proven to be pretty much just that. Hey, if diesel owners are happy with their choice, why is it so hard to think I can't be happy with mine?
 
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While the newer ones may smell less of diesel, they still smell, or I should say my Dad's '07 Dodge does. It's quiet(er), powerful and gets good mileage, 17-18 mpg empty, 10-11 mpg towing his 37 ft 5'er. It also is still a diesel and will still be spendy to fix, which is and always has been my gripe with them. I spent more than a little time researching what truck fit me best and a V10 was it. The 5.4 was too little and the diesel too much, and the V10 was just right, and has proven to be pretty much just that. Hey, if diesel owners are happy with their choice, why is it so hard to think I can't be happy with mine?
Cause you are wrong.
 
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While the newer ones may smell less of diesel, they still smell, or I should say my Dad's '07 Dodge does. It's quiet(er), powerful and gets good mileage, 17-18 mpg empty, 10-11 mpg towing his 37 ft 5'er. It also is still a diesel and will still be spendy to fix, which is and always has been my gripe with them. I spent more than a little time researching what truck fit me best and a V10 was it. The 5.4 was too little and the diesel too much, and the V10 was just right, and has proven to be pretty much just that. Hey, if diesel owners are happy with their choice, why is it so hard to think I can't be happy with mine?
Nah, I didn't say you weren't happy with your purchase. I just said if the two were the same price, the PSD to V10 difference would be even greater. From what I have read (no proof), my impression is out of every 10 Super Duties, 8 are PSD, 1 V10, 1 5.4. There would be even less V10s sold. It will be interesting to see the ratio with the new 6.2.

And I am not 100% happy with mine, in that the prior owner neglected the cooling system, though other than the fan clutch, I have been trouble free the last 20,000 miles. But a V10 in the MT mountains would not make me happy at all. LOL
 
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Nah, I didn't say you weren't happy with your purchase. I just said if the two were the same price, the PSD to V10 difference would be even greater. From what I have read (no proof), my impression is out of every 10 Super Duties, 8 are PSD, 1 V10, 1 5.4. There would be even less V10s sold. It will be interesting to see the ratio with the new 6.2.

And I am not 100% happy with mine, in that the prior owner neglected the cooling system, though other than the fan clutch, I have been trouble free the last 20,000 miles. But a V10 in the MT mountains would not make me happy at all. LOL
Exactly. Here in north Texas you hardly see gas engine super duties. I mean if the gas engines are so realible and the v-10 can tow just as much as a diesel then how come the diesel ALWAYS out sell the gas engines. And don't say because ford makes more money if they sell the diesel, they make more diesels cause they know if they made more gas engines they would never sell them.
 
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Exactly. Here in north Texas you hardly see gas engine super duties. I mean if the gas engines are so realible and the v-10 can tow just as much as a diesel then how come the diesel ALWAYS out sell the gas engines. And don't say because ford makes more money if they sell the diesel, they make more diesels cause they know if they made more gas engines they would never sell them.

Ford makes more Diesels, means more diesels on the road, not rocket science. Even after 7K posts on the subject some just can't accept that others are content with their choice of a motor that is as capable of the same work albeit different mileage and maintenance costs.
 
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Ford makes more Diesels, means more diesels on the road, not rocket science. Even after 7K posts on the subject some just can't accept that others are content with their choice of a motor that is as capable of the same work albeit different mileage and maintenance costs.
Yeah and there is a reason why ford makes more diesels. Cause they know they will sell and they are better for the american worker.
 
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my impression is out of every 10 Super Duties, 8 are PSD, 1 V10, 1 5.4.
I see 3 5.4s for every V10 here.
 
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Originally Posted by bill11012
I see 3 5.4s for every V10 here.
Come up to the DFW area and see how many gas engine super duties you see. I bet you will see 15 diesels to every gas engine. Maybe more diesels.
 
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Cause you are wrong.
Your opinion means less with each passing post. Need I remind you that you were just as sure your 5.4 was the perfect truck? Need I also bring up the fact you still haven't posted a 13 second timeslip you claim you can do? Also still looking for that awesome truck of yours to pull into my driveway to race my antique, gas-powered Mustang. Until then, go away...
 
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Come up to the DFW area and see how many gas engine super duties you see. I bet you will see 15 diesels to every gas engine. Maybe more diesels.
Same here, in fact I saw two just today. One was a slidebed tow truck and one was on it...
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby3
Ford makes more Diesels, means more diesels on the road, not rocket science. Even after 7K posts on the subject some just can't accept that others are content with their choice of a motor that is as capable of the same work albeit different mileage and maintenance costs.
Yeah, I just keep up with this thread on the hope that someone in Texas with a 1999 PSD takes Bill out for a spin so he will not only change his signature, but delete it! hehehe

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I see 3 5.4s for every V10 here.
Oh, so you agree with Josh that the 5.4 is even better than the V10? Man Bill you make this too easy!
 


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